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    • After switching from a fashionable big adventure bike (KTM 1190 AR) to a dual sport (KTM 690 ER) and getting into more difficult terrain, I started to get tired of my current high-end adventure gear. It does the job, but it's heavy.
      So for this early part of the season, I just got a very nice Kenny Racing Enduro suit.
      Purely off-road oriented, doesn't attempt any degree of road protection. The pants are in-the-boot style.
      Very, very light.
      They describe it as "water resistant". It's laminated with taped seams, but the front zippers of both the jacket and the pants don't have any flap, so would leak in a solid rain.
      It has a nice venting concept: the front zipper opens and there's a mesh strip behind it, held closed with a second zipper. Basically a vent for the full height of the jacket. Also vents on the arms and back. Vents on the legs as well.
      As a first impression, it's a high-quality, light garment with some well thought out details.
      Waiting for some ordered armor to arrive so I can actually try it.
      I'll get back with a proper review, but the first impression is very good.

    • If you are not touring on your DS, just wear MX racing gear. It's light, very protective and cool. Compared to the high end ADV market it's damn cheap to buy too.

      I've mostly stopped spending a ton of money for high end snowmobile looking "bomb proof" gear. In my experience, it's just a lot of money and discomfort for a compromise that really isn't all that great. Putting a premium on rain protection that is always on seems right up-front but it puts a lot of expense into an already expensive piece of gear in zippers and GoreTex licensing... etc. And it rarely lives up to the hype. A $500 protective jacket with good venting and a $100 rain suit are better than $1200 jacket for almost any case (IMO) as long as you are willing to stop and put it on before you get wet. And if you sweat a lot - you are already wet so... maybe a summer rain is just what the doctor ordered. If it's cold and raining, a plastic rain suit is 100% windproof and with a heated liner, toasty too. My only concession to the ADV GoreTex gods these days are boots. My feet need to breathe.

      For 90% of my riding I am in Aerositch cargo pants, an Alpinestar "near" racing leather jacket (it's got a little more room, no spine hump), Sidi Adv boots and race gauntlets. I've got a small mix of thin Under Armor and merino wool base layers, a fancy electric jacket, and a BMW rain suit in my side case. It packs down very small. I've got heated grips and winter gloves. I'm good from about 20F to 100F, rain or shine. Dirt or asphalt.


      *disclaimer* I do have a Klim Badlands Pro suit hanging in a closet. I wore it for a few long trips in foul weather. It works as advertised but it's the main reason I went back to componentizing my gear. It's 22lbs, and fits like Randy's winter outfit in A Christmas Story.

    • Yep, that was the thinking behaind that off road suit. Very light shell meant to be worn over a pressure suit. For summer I do intend to get MX pants and shirt and another lightweight offroad jacket without any membrane.

    • It really depends on the temperature and conditions. I hate being overdressed, sweaty and burdened by weight. I also don't like being soaked right through and freeze my butt off.

      If it's cold and/or wet, I'll wear my MSR ISDE jacket that has a gore tex liner and lots of cargo pockets to carry warm gear, food, water, etc. The jacket has pit zips and a full back zipper that helps keep me from overheating. On my legs I wear some MEC (Mountain Equipment Coop) waterproof/breathable rain pants. What I like about the pants is the full length zipper. No goretex like waterproof breathable fabric breaths well enough to keep you dry if you're working hard, so having the vents really helps to keep you from sweating and getting wet. The multi leg zippers allows me to adjust where I want the ventilation and how big of an openning I want. I also use these pants for cycling.

      If it's not going to rain and it's not too cold, I'll use my Thor jacket that has removable arms. The arms can be placed in the rear jacket pocket. It keeps your core warm but allows additional ventilation if it's warmer out. It's also much lighter than the MSR ISDE jacket.

      If it's mid summer and going to rain or it's really wet in the woods, I'll use an MSR pac jacket. It's pretty old and has no pit zips but it's a nice light jacket that's stood the test of time. It's faded so bad it's now a different colour than it originally was but it's a testament to it's functionality and durability.

      I wear my motocross gear underneath my jacket and pants. If it's cold I'll dress in layers. The jacket is big enough to wear a chest protector with shoulder pants underneath.

    • Thing that sucks is in the mountains, the weather is unpredictable. So how do you dress?

      I've got a couple of sets of gear that I wear. Badlands jacket and pants or maybe my Aerostitch-but I'm reluctant on rainy days since it's nowhere near waterproof.

    • In layers :) Something like Klim Forecast or similar.
      I got this ultra-light thing for the occasional rain and I'm looking into their heavier duty version for prolonged rains (they have pants as well but are out of stock).
      I also have the ProShell outer suit from my current Companero adventure suit. It's bulky but bullet proof.

    • I'm lucky to work with Klim on development sometimes, and what's interesting is how even with access to everything they make, I tend toward some of their lower end kit for day to day use. It's lighter but still waterproof and ventilates well. The Traverse (with optional D3O pads) is a great all around setup. The badlands is amazing but I don't feel justified to wear it around town, which makes no sense but that's how I feel.

      Having crashed on the road in MX gear, I think it is important to be aware of its limitations. With appropriate pads, it does OK with impact, but at higher speeds it will melt before you come to a stop and that sucks. YMMV.

    • I totally agree - if you read down further in that wall of text I posted I almost always ride in a leather jacket and moto cargo pants. Unless I unload a dirt bike from a truck. In that case - I wear full MX gear. I'd rather fall in rocks in a leather jacket than on the road in a Fly jersey :)

    • True, but there are various things that can fall under the term MX gear. A pair of Klim Dakar ITB pants would probably be much better suited for an occasional road stretch than some light A* motocross pants. The pants in the Kenny suit mentioned in the first post have 1000D stretch Cordura on the seat area and some nice materials all over. While not on the level of Badlands, they are certainly above any light motocross pant I've seen.

    • When I dualsport I wear leather gloves to the trail head and then switch to offroad gloves. That leaves my legs with only motocross pants and knee braces for protection. Certainly not the greatest protection but I can't imagine wearing something heavier on a hot day. If it's hot and there won't be too much asphalt riding, do you have a suggestion for pants? I sometimes wear a pair of half kevlar dualsport cargo pants but those are fairly warm and still don't have the best protection.

    • I find most "Adventure" stuff to be way too much for the riding I do. In fact I wonder how anyone wears that gear and enjoys it. In the old days, leather MX pants and a Barbour jacket got me through cold and wet days in the woods. Of course that old gear was more water resistant than water proof. Still, it kept you reasonably warm for a day of off road riding.

      I am more in favor of just enough layers to get through the day as planned with a margin of error for the surprise weather change. The all-in-one-does-everything outfits don't cut it.

    • I was pretty surprised to be strolling down Avenue of The Americas in NY this morning and see a Dainese shop in prime retail space. I of course couldn't help indulging in the eye candiness of the display.

    • For anything short of a mx race, I'll be found in a 'stitch Darien pants and jacket with Decent Goretex boots. A heated liner, various tech under layers, and for really, really bad all day downpours a light rain suit over top. Armor can can be added underneath if warranted.

      I never win the fashion show, but I am usually the most comfortable. Works on Dual Sport, Big ADV, and even cruisers.

    • Although I have many assorted goretex jackets I absolutely hate all goretex footwear. It doesn't breath enough and leaves my feet sweaty, vulnerable to blisters and very uncomfortable- even if I wear special socks. I find if I use regular leather hiking boots or mx boots that are properly treated that I have sufficient waterproofness. I have a pair of goretex socks if I am really concerned about a torrential rain or ridiculous mud and slop when woods riding.

    • When I travel I use Rocky Gortex logging boots. The price was right when I bought them and my feet stay DRY. When it isn't wet I use army hot weather boots. I gave up being fashionable a long while ago.

    • Been riding with an Aerostitch Darien for years...I may be using the oldest one still in service ;-) ...but it always annoys me that you can't get into the side pockets without a super-contortion, the pit vents can't be easily opened or closed while riding, and those dumb napolean pockets are designed to lose your cell phone or your wallet when you need to pull out of the toll gate quickly to get out of the way. Surely Andy had something in mind, but I don't know what it was.

    • For off-road I typically wear an old Acerbis jacket with a zip off collar for my Leatt brace with KLIM Dakar overboot pants and separate body armour underneath. Not waterproof but good protection for most shit. Rarely on hot days close to home I’ll wear an MX jersey.

      If I’m on the road loaded for a trip I wear my KLIM Adventure suit, yeah it’s heavy but comfortable for long days in the saddle and waterproof. Keeping spare tubes in the rear side pockets keeps them out of my luggage.

      I sometimes tour in MX boots or Aerostitch Combat boots.