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    • Funny you posted this now as I need a new pair of earbuds and I'm trying to figure out which ones to buy. Like you, I hated that they removed the headphone jack, but now that I'm wireless, I went all the way and got AirPods. I love them except for a few little things. I'm very close to buying these Jabras.

    • I don't much like being forced to abandon equipment that is serving me well, just because a vendor thinks the future is elsewhere. OTOH, I am perfectly fine with new technologies that offer me an immediate benefit. I moved to Bluetooth headphones for my laptop three or four years ago because I grew tired of throwing out wired ones because the wire was fraying at the jack. Admittedly, I was using fairly cheap stuff, but it irritated me anyway. I paid about 90 Euros for a pair of Jabra Move headphones. The quality is pretty good, probably better than the wired low-end Sennheiser phones I was using previously. Interestingly, I can connect the Jabra phones with a cable (in case of no battery, or no Bluetooth source), but I'm pretty sure I'm getting better sound quality over Bluetooth than over a wire. This surprised me, as audiophiles are ususally dismissive of Bluetooth. I'm guessing that the Jabra phones must have a better DAC than my computer. Otherwise, I don't understand how it could happen.

    • I have had wireless headphones for quite some time, before the whole kill-the-jack theme started and wireless connectivity definitely is a must-have for me.

      Although, I still like plugging the headphones in when watching a movie or playing a game because the ones that I currently have, have pretty big latency.

      But headphones aren't really the thing that annoys me the most about losing the jack. It's situations like one that I went through in the previous weeks: at school each class is preparing an ameture theatre play, it's a school tradition. I was responsible for audio. So I had an app on my phone and... That's all I needed! So simple, I already have my phone with me everyday, I don't have to care about carrying a Bluetooth speaker nor any kind of dongle.

      I love Bluetooth and wireless tech but it's that simplicity that we're losing and especially in cases where the jack would easily fit in the phone, I'm very mad it isn't there.

    • As a side note, I think the jack was removed because it's been claimed to be a place for water ingress and so most new phones are at least water/splash resistant now. Now I already spent the equivalent of a good set of ear buds on those silly new type of 3.5 mm adapters and learned in the process they're not all created the same. The poor quality ones will cut off the sound from one or both speakers when the wire is moved, such as when walking!

    • I still refuse to jump to wireless headphones/earphones. It's partly a matter of convenience, more on which I'll get to, and it's also a matter of audio quality. I'm not at all a fan of removing the 3.5mm jack, although I recognize why manufacturers like Apple, Samsung, etc are making the switch.

      From a convenience standpoint, I can only stay on top of the charge state of so many battery-powered devices. Between my laptop, my cell phone, and my personal audio player, that's all I can manage. So my mice, earphones, headphones - essentially all accessories, are wired.

      When traveling, I acknowledge that it would be nice not to have the wires hanging out all over the place, but I'll take that over the feeling of dismay when I pull them out to use them and find they've lost charge and are therefore temporarily unusable.

      So, at home I have various DACs set up and various wired, transducer solutions. A Dragonfly is on my office desktop, wired to a pair of Bose desktop speakers, or I switch to a pair of wired GN2000s for my conferences and audio when I need to keep the noise down.

      For mobile calls, I have a Pixel 2 which has no 3.5mm jack, so I have the obligatory adapter that @Dracula shows above (but with a mic band), and a generic $9.95 headset I bought at an airport. I tend to lose those and/or they inevitably fail 1 day past the warranty date, so I view them, essentially, as a throwaway solution.

      For my portable audio setup, I have an Astell & Kern Kann with a 2.5mm balanced output, and a set of custom JH Audio Lolas running over a custom Black Dragon cable, which I treasure. There are no wireless headphones/earbuds that I'm aware of that can deliver the liquid audio experience of a set of Lolas.

    • But one comment on the JH in-ear monitors: I bought them because I travel a lot, and I wanted something that delivered great audio and also suppresses all the noise in the various environments one encounters on business trips: noisy bars, airplanes, airports, hotel lobbies, etc. I'm wary of noise cancelling solutions because they diminish the nuances of hi-res audio.

      For noise suppression on airplanes, the Lolas work a little *too* well: they seal so effectively that I have to reach up and unseat them from my ears during climbs and descents, to prevent the pressure from building. So on shorter flights when it's up then down, I've gone back to a set of Shure e4c's, which don't seal. But I'll still take the Lolas every time, on longer flights!

    • I don't even entertain the thought, mostly because manufacturers seem to not want me to. I can't stand in-ear earbuds and I have an ear canal issue which might get worse if I try. So I'm clinging to my wired earbuds as long as possible, which don't go into the ear but rest in the folds instead.

      As for actual headsets, the price of decent bluetooth ones is still a little out of my budget and I only use headset at my desktop computer so meh.

    • As a side note, I think the jack was removed because it's been claimed to be a place for water ingress and so most new phones are at least water/splash resistant now.

      I don't think that's true. The Galaxy Note 9 has a headphone jack but is also IP68 rated. On the other hand, the OnePlus 6T doesn't have a headphone jack and isn't IP rated either.

      While we're on the topic of "why" the headphone jack "needed" to be removed, I think the Note 9 is a great counter to all the alleged excuses manufacturers give. More space for a larger battery? Note 9 has a 4000 mAh battery. More space for internal components? The Note 9 can house the S-Pen.

      The more likely reason is that manufacturers are following the trend set by Apple, or they want to sell more accessories. Alongside the removal of the headphone jack from the OnePlus 6T, OnePlus also released USB-C earphones, and a pair of wireless earphones as well (which I bought). Apple's top selling smartphone accessory? The 3.5mm dongle.

      As far as consumers go, there's just no good reason why the headphone jack should be removed.

    • For a few years, have had a wired pair of Skull Candy cans - I think they cost around US$40 new. I do not like anything to poke into my ear canal or hang on my ear - excema issues (I am old geezer). The Skull Candy cans were a little too small - did not cover my outer ear, but rather pressed against the ear. They hurt after a hour or two. A few months ago I bought a pair of Bose QC35 - a notable improvement. The bluetooth connecting is pretty straightforward, but I have two devices and one tends to preempt the other, so I turn off the bluetooth feature on the less-used device unless I need to listen (I mostly think computers should be seen and not heard, so it isn't much of an issue). Although the battery life is good, I would say it is mildly annoying to have to recharge a couple of times weekly. There is still a wired cord available; 3.5mm audio plug on the PC end, and a slightly smaller plug on the headphone end. The charging connection is a micro-USB jack. Because of the noise cancellation feature, even if you use the audio cord, it is still necessary to recharge. But aside from all that, the QC35 are super-comfortable - I tend to leave them on a lot; it is so nice and QUIET :)

    • Appreciate the water proof clarification. It's really a shame they removed the jack, because I still very much prefer to continue using my wired headsets, not because I mind spending few dollars now and then buying these adapters when I invariably lose them, or the additional complication. And some of the non oem substitute adapters are of really poor quality and lose contacts when moved around. I currently have a Motorola Z3 Play phone which I absolutely love because of it's moto mods options that let me have a slim second battery literally making my phone power last few days, a quite useful projector, a JBL speaker or a true Hasselblad camera. Talk about James Bond style devices! LOL.

    • Bose 35 II's here, just picked them up on sale $50 off just now.

      Came recommended by my audio advisor, a high influencer in the headphone world.

      Comfortable, but these are for music and movie consumption, not phone calls so I don't have anything there for that. Over ear is far more comfortable but they do make my ears hot, I run a little higher temp than most folks I guess.

      The connect app is clunky but works ok, changed the assistant button to adjust noise canceling level. Might be able to make it through the holidays with some silence.