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    • I think he's wrong on all counts.

      Trump won in 2016 because the media took this person's approach, and gave Trump billions of dollars worth of advertising for free, and equal treatment of the truth and his lies. And gave time and amplification of foreign interference.

      It has to stop.

    • Frankly, I think it should be considered that no elected official be allowed to post on social media.

      The problem is that this is not really a practical solution - partly because who should make that a binding rule in the first place?

      As long as you have sane people in power, you might get this rule implemented but won't really need it. As soon as you get lunatics in power, all bets are off anyway - and obviously, even if this had been some sort of official rule, President Orange would have thrown it out of the window, just like so many other rules and norms.

      In this specific case, the sane thing would have been not to expect a sociopath to behave, but to moderate the personal account @realDxxxxxTxxxx just like any other personal account, and if anything give special treatment to @POTUS, an account that did not amass trolls and bots for a decade and will be taken away as soon as there's a new POTUS.

      What that "special treatment" really should look like is worth a separate discussion - but it probably wouldn't include being able to state all the falsehoods and get away with it (and later erase them? For some reason there's currently no posts on, but according to the media gallery this account did post something before).

    • I don’t agree. When I started Cake, Reddit was teetering in collapse and I went to have coffee with the former CEO, who basically got fired for banning some subreddits. All those people went to Voat, the argument went, which now had major traction.

      But Voat got so ugly over the years, it was shut down a couple weeks ago. When you deplatfirm someone vile like Alex Jones, you really cut down on their influence.

    • Yes it mean you can do exactly that. The typical liftie mentally; "if I'm not affected by censorship then it's ok". What if it was opposite? And if you are pro-censorship why not just move to China, North Korea etc?

    • Yes it mean you can do exactly that.

      Sure, yell "Fire" in a theatre all day long, if you think that this is the best thing to spend your time with. "Free speech" doesn't mean that there won't be any consequences for you, though.

      For what it's worth, "free speech" as defined by your first amendment doesn't even apply here.

    • To be fair, they could post about their cats, but not state affairs, in official positions. But there are enough proxies as it is already, to spew further damaging misinformation and pure hate incite so the pandora box cannot be closed. Damage is already done. Personally I have complete disregard about any 'official's messaging' being posted on social media. It's totally wrong, and lacks responsibility. That is in fact what attracts them to use it, there's no accountability for posting incendiary calls for agression on a 'paid by advertisement' quasi-free service.

    • disqus should cut services from any site that doesn't moderate its comments for threats of violence and incitement. Sites like thegatewaypundit are rife with these threats from extremists.

    • Governmental censorship is not the same as a person or a company deciding to not provide a service to someone.

      Are you opposed to landlords evicting someone for violating their lease?

      Are you opposed to a restaurant refusing to allow customers to come in without any shirt on?

      The first amendment does not give someone from a different religion than yours the right to enter the church building that you attend and preach anything that they want to preach in the name of "free speech."

      The freedom of speech ONLY refers to a governmental entity not being allowed to criminalize, penalize, or legislate against what a person wants to say.

      It does not mean that Fox News must allow AOC to come on their station Nor does it mean that Twitter must allow Trump to tweet on their platform.

      If you don't know what "freedom of speech" is, then how can you discuss it?

    • I really don’t see much accountability regardless of where they say it these days. They just find a news station that agrees with them or supports them even if they’re lying through their teeth and the station knows it.