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    • Mostly youme.social is scratching that G+ itch, with some discord, lots of Dreamwidth and some pluspora. And here a bit.

    • Great timing! Just earlier this week, it occurred to me that G+ was gone for a month - and that it already seems to be a lifetime away instead of just four weeks, and that I'm not missing it that much. I'm not even sure why that is the case.

      Is it because the shutdown came with ample warning, allowing me to establish myself elsewhere over the last six months? Or is it because this whole idea of having some "online home" is just an illusion?

      For what it's worth, I believe there still are a ton of "potential G+ features" that haven't really been replicated anywhere else. It's just that many of these features never saw active use on G+ itself - so, perhaps I'm missing this hypothetical platform more than the one that really existed towards the end. :)

      What about you?  Where are you now calling home?

      To answer a variant of that question according to the above: most of my online conversation currently happens here on Cake - but there's also stuff that doesn't happen at all because I've not found an appropriate place for it at all. :)

    • but there's also stuff that doesn't happen at all because I've not found an appropriate place for it at all. :)

      My curiosity is piqued.

    • My curiosity is piqued.

      The thing is, I'm interested in a ton of different and unrelated things, and would sometimes like to share a thing or two about those things without being "forced" into either a lengthy conversation or a commitment to post more than, say, twice a year about it - because I'm not actually the sort of expert in that specific field who could properly lead such conversations on a regular basis.

      On Google+, I had a number of "regulars" following my profile (I assume for the stuff I'd typically post), but I also could post about something crazily different by just creating a collection and start posting. If the "regulars" weren't interested in sarcastic commentary of an annual weird music contest, or my forays into DIY garden decoration, or completely random photos, or a sort-of blog on Android development, or review of whatever music I'm currently listening to... - they could just unfollow that specific collection, just like anyone else not among my followers could follow just that collection.

      I'm trying to come up with the proper term for the sort of technology I'm missing. It's similar to "microblogging", but not quite the same because individual of my posts can be much larger than "micro". Is "multiblogging" a thing?

      Anyway, this is not quite what Cake has to offer because of its emphasis on conversation. It's not what Twitter has to offer because of its restricted post size. Something like Flickr might be appropriate for my photos (but only those), while something like Tumblr might be interesting for text post (although I don't feel like spreading myself across a dozen different thematic blogs). Last but not least, a self-hosted Wordpress blog would allow me to talk about whatever I like - but who is still visiting those? :)

    • If the "regulars" weren't interested in sarcastic commentary of an annual weird music contest, or my forays into DIY garden decoration, or completely random photos, or a sort-of blog on Android development, or review of whatever music I'm currently listening to... - they could just unfollow that specific collection, just like anyone else not among my followers could follow just that collection.

      I guess coming from Twitter, I feel quite free here to post on any and all of the above. If you want to post a photo collection without having user responses, you could publish it as a panel of one. That’s basically what I did for my Summer Math Chats Schedule. I did activate the Q&A function, so that people could suggest additional chats to include on the schedule, but you could have it turned off with your photo collections.

      I also think clear titles for your conversations can help regular consumers of your content to know that it’s something different or something that won’t be of interest. For example, I don’t have an Android phone so your recent Google post the other day is something I could tell, from the title, would be irrelevant to me. I read it anyway, since I enjoy your writing and like to learn stuff, but my point is still valid.

      You can also add a consistent warning in the opening of your conversation starters:

      “This isn’t my normal fare, so if you’re not already into DIY garden decoration then you may want to pass on reading further.”

      Or something similar. I completely get that you can’t unfollow specific conversations within a followed topic. It’s a level of granularity that Cake will probably end up having to add. Especially when the only current option to “unfollow” a conversation is to ignore ALL of the posts of whoever created that conversation.

      If Cake added that functionality today, would you be more likely to share these “divergent from the norm” posts?

      cc: @Vilen @ChrisJenkins (Yes, I intentionally called out Mr. J based on his insane depth of knowledge of numerous platforms, including Reddit and G+. Would love to get his insights on this. 🙏. But we’ll soldier on if he’s currently indisposed.)

    • If Cake added that functionality today, would you be more likely to share these “divergent from the norm” posts?

      To be honest, probably not.

      The thing is, Cake is pretty clear about the idea that everything that happens on the platform is supposed to be a conversation. This isn't a bad thing at all - if I thought this was crazy, I wouldn't be here any longer. It's just that starting something on Cake that I don't intend to become a conversation (or where, as soon as a conversation happens, I basically have to excuse myself from my own thread because I can't add much to it) feels like a workaround or even a bit dishonest (for lack of a better term) to me.

      That doesn't mean that I'm afraid to talk about any of these topics - it's more that I don't feel like starting any of these conversations myself, at least not across the whole range of topics I'm interested in, and not on a regular basis.

    • I have been remarkably indisposed due to my work schedule, so I haven't been very social at all lately. However, I'd say that MeWe is my more G+ type platform, and Cake is when I'm feeling like writing something thoughtful.

      Collections were pretty genius, and allowed people to create niche audiences around one type of post. My Hip Hop videos collection had twice the followers of all of my other collections.

    • I can definitely respect your desire not to add noise to a conversation forum. Makes perfect sense. I am building out the mathematics and education topics here and am including resources like a “Top 50 Math Educators on Twitter” list and “Summer Math Chats Schedule” to entice folks from Twitter to join the math conversation here.

      It’s funny but the main math education hashtag is #MTBoS, which stands for

      Math teachers in the Twitterverse and Blogosphere.

      Five or six years ago, blog commenting communities were still huge, with average math blogs getting half a dozen comments per post and the more well known ones getting 20 or more.

      From discussions I had with major bloggers last summer, most of them still have readers but they typically get one or zero comments per post. Many haven’t posted to their blog in over six months: without that commenting community interaction, it’s hard to stay a motivated blogger.

      For that reason, I think Cake can replace the long gone blogging communities for math education, as well as for other interests. It’s not a replacement for tweets, imho, but rather a place for conversations that benefit from more than 288 characters per thought.