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    • I'm trying to cut back on gadgets because simplifying and waste, but I'm terrible about sleep so I bit.

      So far, I'm very impressed. I've been following all its tips and watching the results and I'm definitely getting better. Best night so far:

      Seems to check out. I go into very deep sleep for the first couple hours, then I'm awake and ready for the day to start, until I get tired again a few hours later.

      Anyone else have sleep war stories?

    • There was this time at Band Camp when ... oh ... not that kind of story.

      But not really - since the days of 14.4 modems and dial up I do prefer to work at night and get up late. Nocturnal r us. Sleep's never an issue tho .... zzzzzzzzzzz

    • My question for you is, can the ring improve your sleep? Surely not. You'll just feel better doing something to learn about it.

      I'm a night owl, work till late evenings then enjoy relaxing and reading up on the web, watching movies, dreaming. Some evenings cooking elaborate meals. Indulging in a bit of good stuff completes a perfect day, ensuring for me a deep long sleep. And I never set my alarm clock, just wake up whenever I feel like. We should discuss dreams interpretations.

    • My fitness watch (a Samsung Galaxy Watch Active 2) includes sleep tracking so I never considered adding another device.

      I find it helpful as a checkpoint, especially on the nights when I feel like I didn't have good sleep. Usually the stats in the sleep tracker confirm my suspicion.

    • I find this particular excerpt from this review, fascinating:

      What sets the Oura Ring apart from other sleep trackers is its ability to measure your heart rate, HRV, and skin temperature while you sleep. The company says these measurements can provide clues about how well you’re sleeping, how rested you’ll feel in the morning, and possibly your stress levels and emotional well-being or even whether you’re coming down with something. Generally, when your body is working harder, whether due to physical exertion, fighting an infection, or emotional stress, your heart rate increases, your HRV decreases, and your skin temperature rises. 

      Perhaps they could pair with a dream reading service, and produce more data based interpretations. Specifically the 'emotional well-being' should be very interesting and entertaining.

    • Generally, when your body is working harder, whether due to physical exertion, fighting an infection, or emotional stress, your heart rate increases, your HRV decreases, and your skin temperature rise

      I wonder how that would work with someone with a chronic fatigue, would it start flashing red lights and sirens and automatically call an ambulance as soon as you put it on?

      It would be interesting though to compare my stats to 'normal' person my age and see what differences there are.

      The dream reading though, woah! there's a huge can of worms to be examined, Psychologists would have a field day.

    • I'm not sure yet what it's doing during the day. Each day I get a bar chart of activity and how intense it is. So yesterday I spent 90 minutes pacing around the kitchen because I was writing a story in my head and I pace when I do it. It showed those bars as mild activity.

      After lunch I went for a brisk 20 minute walk and it showed those bars as moderate. Then I went on a 6 mile run in the hills and pushed it, and it showed those bars as intense. Oura on my phone pinged me to ask if I was working out.

      It calculated steps and estimated calorie burn (3906) for the day. It doesn't report heart rate though, like it does at night. At night it gives an average for the whole night (mine is around 38).

    • Sorry, I should have been more specific. It does measure "activity" during the day (using an accelerometer) and derives calories from that. It doesn't do the other measurements though.

    • It has to be algorithmically based on variables it can read, and likely also some predetermined time constants. Maybe just lying down for a rest, and breathing calmly will be picked up as 'sleep', I'd try to fool it and see what it says. My concern with these wearables is that one day the app data will unbeknown to many, be either inadvertently or intentionally used for other interests than the wearer's. The whole concept is just begging for it. Does it work without a data connection? Can you pull a motorcycle glove over it?

    • Yes, I hardly notice it's on my finger. No problem with gloves. The only time I notice it is on my pull-up bar. It's hard metal (3/4 or 1", can't remember which) from the hardware store, and the ring hurts my finger a little as I do the pull-ups.

      It's bluetooth to my phone so I'm assuming it either has memory or stops recording when separated, I don't know.

      Last night I watched the clock every time I went to bed or woke up and the readout this morning was uncannily accurate. Maybe I move more when I'm awake? It also purports to know the difference between light, deep and REM sleep, dunno how.

    • What I like about this is it seems to just be giving you more data and information about your sleep! That can only benefit you, right? Certainly better than popping sleeping pills or something.

      P.S. NBA players were wearing a ring that looked very similar to this in Orlando when they were in the bubble last season. It helped alert them of their health so as it make sure they weren’t COVID positive and what not. Gonna be interesting to see where ring technology takes us!

    • They gave each player an Oura ring because there was the possibility of the ring being an early detector of covid-19 based on the temperature data.