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    • It's the first time I have ventured out of more than the backyard to fly, I felt confident enough to send it beyond where I could physically see it, and over water!

      Drone flying is a learning curve, assessing angles, making smooth movements (fail!) and keeping line of sight so the signal stays strong.

      Late in the day I was asked to scope out a potential area for a friend who will be doing some videos (on the ground) in a few weeks in this area, and he wanted a good overall view, I thought a view from the sky could show him the surrounding area well.

      As a new flyer I am taking it somewhat easy, I am not looking to take NatGeo shots from the air, just see places in a new way.

      Are there any other drone flyers on here, tips, tricks, angles and flight paths are appreciated if you are willing to share.

      This is footage taken without any filters, I was told an ND4/CPL would help in around 90% of flying situations...anyone?

      Here's the best I could muster, points for guessing the location?

    • If you're after the true cinematic shot; that one with a little bit of motion in each frame, I believe you're looking for a shutter speed of about twice the frame rate. For 30 FPS you'll want to put an ND filter on there that will bring your shutter speed to about 1/60th of a second.

      It looks like the Mavic Mini has a 2-axis gimbal? The spark that I spent a lot of time flying did and it's really hard to get smooth yaw movements on video if that's the case. Two things I can think of to help with the rotational movements. The first is to set up your shots so that you don't need to yaw and the other is to hold the controller so that you can use your thumb and index finger to control the sticks, so that you're able to get finer control of them and ease in and out of the yaw movement a bit better. Like the "okay" sign with both hands, but on your controller. Just using thumbs can be clumsy. The "jerk" on the yaw is only when you're starting or stopping that movement, so if you don't use it, or never stop using it, that effect isn't an issue.

      If you YouTube "5 most cinematic drone shots" you should get a plethora of videos showing the time tested and proven drone movements that will give you good results.

      I shot some video last weekend but haven't processed it yet. So I'll leave you with a couple of pictures I've taken in the last few weeks. (you may have seen one or two of them if you follow my thread about the Mavic 2 Pro)

    • Okay, I have more....

      If you push the sticks toward each other, or away from each other, what you have is an "orbit" type move. That is, the drone simultaneously moves laterally and rotates at the same time, but because they're opposite, it will essentially perform a circle if you do it long enough. It takes a while to do it smoothly. But you will get the hang of it.

      For pictures, I bracket the exposure a good portion of the time and then make an HDR if there's any question as to which is the best exposure. Especially if there are heavy shadows or low lighting. I think the Mavic Mini will do that too?

      Also, never be afraid to take the time to put your drone up and see what you can see. Some of the best pictures I have are when I went to take a picture of something and "discovered" a better shot when I pointed it in a different direction.

    • good stuff thanks @skinny_tom I never owned even a remote control car so its all new to me, a learning curve but a fun one for sure. I get it now what you mean doing the 'ok' symbol, that should really smooth out the motion when adjusting direction

      One thing I find strange on it is, to rotate the gimbal up and down the wheel/ dial doesn't do the obvious up and down motion vertically, the wheel is mounted horizontally which I find a little strange, and can easily make you move in the wrong direction.

      It has a 3 axis gimbal so with practice I should be able to smooth it out a lot, it has an orbit and spiral built into it with a touch of button, to delete the human error possibility (me) making it less smooth. It also has a cinematic mode to restrict fast movements and get better quality footage, and then speed it up in post if necessary

      I need to find a ND4 filter that is compatible with the mini and my DJI osmo, so not to be carrying duplicates.

      I had actually watched the following video with 20 angles, but when I was out there forgot them, I need to make a list until they become second nature

    • Drone Film Guide is pretty good. I've watched a bunch of their videos as well as others. I have to admit that I forget about all "the moves" as well. I think that I'm going to make a little cheat sheet and create a flight plan for when I'm doing this.

      This is a little bit of what I filmed last weekend. I'm using a ND4 polarized filter to get the shutter speed closer to 60 FPS. The M2P has an adjustable aperture so it's easier to slap a filter on there and go with it. Unless I'm expecting to need a change in settings while filming, I've gone to following the advice of the "pros" and filming in manual- and not changing the exposure as I go. Sorry, no soundtrack...

    • I flew the drone off the back deck of the Royal Kona in Kona, Hawaii, taking in the dramatic waves. Security came up to me, told me to stop, said they would have me forcibly escorted off the property if I ever did this again.

      Yes, I was a paying customer. No, I didn't argue, but I should have. The Royal Kona doesn't own the water.

    • Interesting... Here is what I've learned about that stuff:

      A property owner, governmental agency (National Parks etc.) and even a city may enact a law or policy that you may not operate a drone from their property or jurisdiction. That is, landing and launching can be specifically regulated. However; The FAA has made it abundantly clear that it is the De Facto regulator of airspace in the United States, and nobody else can claim so.

      What that means: You can fly over the Royal Kona but they can keep you from landing and launching (and presumably operating your drone from) their property.

      The solution is to go to the public area nearby and do it all from there.

    • And it bet you got some good footage! I've found that the AirMap app is a great source for knowing where (and if you're in) regulated airspace. There is also a way to get FAA permission to fly under regulated airspace near airports through the app too. Unfortunately, discovering you're landing and launching where people have regulated it is sometimes found out the hard way.

      Better to ask forgiveness, yes?

    • I wonder if Bay Area residents will be getting their drone fix in during the next few weeks to see what life is like outside of their shelter in place confinement. @Vilen, are you planning to drone?

    • I don't actually own a drone, but @kevin does. As far as I know there are lots of restrictions on flying drones in the Bay Area. I good resource to figure out where one can fly a drone is AirMap. So maybe Kevin and I can drive out to the hills and fly a drone there.

    • There are ways to fly "under" the airspace. If you look closely at the grids you can see the floor of the airspace. If you register your drone with the FAA I think you can get LAANC approval through Airmap. I'm pretty sure they've opened it up for recreational flyers.

      I've got a Part 107 license. Using Airmap it takes me longer to enter my flight plan in Airmap than it does to get FAA approval to fly near an airport (the video I posted above was taken in "under" the Napa County Airport's airspace.)