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    • What is your frequency for Cake consumption?

      Please vote via emoji:

      ๐Ÿš€ย I devour Cake on a daily basis

      ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿผ ย I visit Cake at least 3 times in a week

      ๐Ÿ… I consume Cake weekly

    • I'm an inconsistent user. But I wonder if some usage reports would be more accurate. I also sense you are asking for more participation, by asking about it.

    • Somewhere between

      ๐Ÿš€ย I devour Cake on a daily basis

      ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿผย ย I visit Cake at least 3 times in a week

    • I also sense you are asking for more participation, by asking about it.

      I donโ€™t think you can request people to participate more in a forum. The best you can do is to create the conditions where people will want to engage more than they did previously. And Iโ€™ve certainly noticed some new voices on Cake, such as @Munch and @Meditrider, as well as increased participation from several regulars.

      I think those are both significant positives, considering that 95% of the news is on the pandemic and that a lot of topics are on hold for conversation (sports, new movie releases, upcoming concerts), Cake also had two conversations that went viral after being on the top stories of Hacker News, which means there are now more lurkers quietly enjoying the content on Cake. (By contrast, there are YouTube videographers who were getting only 20% of their normal views in the first few weeks after the virus went global.)

    • I only participate in a few forums, three actually, on more than once a month basis.

      Cake daily.

      ADV Rider, almost daily.

      And another very small forum dedicated to overlanding in a truck/popup camper.

      I enjoy Cake and the third forum I did not name because of the content, the courteous and knowledgable participates willing to share their opinions in a respectful manner.

      @rtwPaul invited me to come over to Cake. I'm very grateful for the invitation!

      I find it rather tiring to read through flaming, disrespectful, rude postings on many forums. Frankly, I simply do not have the time or energy to wade through those kinds of posts to gleam a nugget of useful information.

      ADV Rider is a monster and one expects the freewheeling nature of participants. Yet, there is so much useful information one simply accepts the nature of the beast. After a while, one learns which inmate's postings to pass up or simply ignore.

      I realize rude and disrespectful behavior seem to go hand in hand in this world now-a-days and even more so on anonymous digital forums.

      Cake has been a very refreshing "find".

    • For me is simple. But I cannot make blanket statements. My time is very limited, and it depends on a lot of things how I choose to spend it, at a given day and time. Mind you am not saying I stick with healthy principles of time management all around, but do try. My choice of participation is also related to kinds and levels of psychological energies that are being poured into conversations, to make them interesting to me, if you will. I sometimes feel too tired to engage in a exhaustive minutiae polemic such as the ones about religion or politics, unless I can learn something new, they usually have no good outcome.

    • When I was flying (not retired) I'd always brief my first officers (I flew long haul) I was willing to talk about anything in the cockpit (I'm old school) except:

      Politics

      Religion

      Union Politics

      Once those ground rules were established, it was always an enjoyable trip.

      It was kind of nice being "Master and Commander" (maritime law governors aviation as well). If I tried to pull that at home, the wife always gives me the "ESAD" reply. :)

    • I generally only post when I can contribute to the conversation...

      Which sometimes doesn't work out that way...contributing that is.

    • I would highly recommend following your Twitter feed. Your daily macro shots are always a pleasant surprise in my timeline.

    • I participate daily but I despair that I may have helped create something only a small percent of the population wants. Itโ€™s like Fox News being so very popular and being financially secure while NPR has to struggle to survive.

      I worried about this with print journalism too when Buzzfeed was taking off and The New York Times was struggling. But to my great relief, the Times and The Washington Post have found their footing so maybe some portion of the U.S. is still drawn to the kind of journalism and discussion I like.

      And Wikipedia and TED endure and donโ€™t seem to be infected by conspiracy theories like Facebook. But Facebook is 1,000 times more popular.

    • Can you explain to me why people find joy in collecting watches? I received a wooden band watch several years ago and the artistic value was lost on me.

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    • I never joined the social media giants. Other than a few forums, even though such are considered SM, I don't think of them on the same level as FB or Twitter.

      I still receive print magazines as I enjoy keeping articles of interest for future reference. I've never subscribed to a print newspaper. If you take the time to observe, you will see pilots heading into the cabin after a flight, to scavenge the USA Today, WSJ, FT or any other newspaper left behind. Seriously, you'll never see a pilot buy a newspaper...we're too cheap!

      I just don't have the time to sit in front of a computer for half hour or longer; I don't think it's healthy. I've always been an out-of-doors person. But more importantly, I don't seem to retain information derived from reading a computer/tablet/smartphone nearly as well as print publications.

      Not sure why, perhaps left handed, right side brain dominate. Or I simply killed too many brain cells in my youth.

    • I don't participate daily, but that's mostly a function of Cake not being available on Android (yeah, mobile web, but Chrome makes editing posts a chore), desktop is not there with me all the time.

      I get what you're saying about not having mass appeal. Cake will never be Facebook. But, on the other hand, maybe you can lean into it and turn it into an advantage. Cake may never have a billion users, but maybe the magic can happen not despite, but because it doesn't. Can 'we don't have everyone and their aunt around here' be a selling point? I know it's much harder to monetise, but is there a way?

    • You know how after you buy something, like a new motorcycle, and then tell everyone on Facebook, Facebook starts showing you ads for motorcycles?

      Facebook had no idea until you posted that you were in the market for motorcycles, and as a result, Facebook missed the opportunity to share a relevant ad before you made a purchase.

      By contrast, if you follow the topics Tesla and Rivian on Cake, you would be provided with an EV ad when you read the latest story on the 2021 Tesla Model XYZ.

      Facebook is a buckshot method for advertisers while Cake provides a much more accurate targeted approach. And without all the privacy invasion issues that Facebook is guilty of.

      Assuming that advertisers would pay a premium for targeted ads to people actually interested in their product, I donโ€™t think Cake needs to be Facebook-sized to be viable.

      The challenge is that a lot of the conversations that are extremely popular on Cake are not interest specific: navel gazing conversations like this (Whatโ€™s good about Cake/Whatโ€™s wrong with Cake/What do you like about Cake), all the political conversations, and the like.

      These conversations are important and enjoyable to the community, however, there needs to be a greater number of interest-specific conversations for long-term viability, imho.

      Thatโ€™s why I love @VilTriโ€™s conversations on all things running, nutrition, and triathletes; @amacbean16โ€™s conversations on homeschooling; @Apocryphalโ€™s 50 Years of Music; and all of @rtwPaulโ€™s amazing reviews and discussions related to motorcycles.

      Of course, there may not currently be enough people on Cake who share your interest in yachting, Faberge egg collecting, and Bentleys (mind read).

      But the more that people create conversations on the interests they are passionate about, the greater the number of โ€œtribesโ€ that will develop around each topic interest. (Who knows, maybe a tribe will develop around @Factotum and @JBeckโ€™s interest in video games.)

    • This reminds me of something I read years ago, talking about what makes Google's ad business and probably the search engine itself so profitable. Basically, it works for the long tail of obscure topics which individually are only interesting for a fraction of the population - but of which there are so many that all these tiny groups of people sum up to a large audience.

      As @jpop put it, "Cake will never be Facebook" - but I'd like to add that there might never be another Facebook at all, and that this isn't necessarily a bad thing. We don't need another platform that everyone uses but hates - instead, if there's a platform that some people use and love, because it works for them and their interest, others might join as well over time.

      Going back to @StephenL 's original question - I am lurking here every day (not currently participating much, but that's for other reasons), but that should probably not be the metric to optimize. If I instead visited just once weekly, but each time found a great conversation to read, wouldn't that be great? Take Medium for example: that site is not a place I visit regularly just because - but every once in a while, I stumble upon a link to a story over there, and more often than not I'm impressed by the amount of work that went into it. Maybe that's a better role model for what Cake wants to be. :)

      All that rambling doesn't solve the chicken-and-egg problem Cake still seems to have with on the one hand no participants being there for the conversations I want to start, and on the other hand no one being there to start the conversations I just want to participate in - but perhaps we'll get there eventually. :)

    • Like this one? There's something organic, almost natural looking, about it. Combination of wood - a frail & perishable material used to create a time measuring device - is in and of itself thought stimulating, and it's artistically sculpted shapes delicious!

      Regarding watch collections, I suppose each collector has their own reasons. And even though I hardly can qualify as collector, with only few time pieces, for me each has symbolic significance on where & how I acquired them. Moreover, it's the fact that time itself has no beginning, and is endless, yet we humans from ancient time strive to measure it's passing with highest accuracy. Each of the watches are to me combinations of mechanical or electrical design ingenuity and their aesthetically intriguing shapes are captivating. . There are more reasons to love watches, and now I need more time to think about them!

    • and on the other hand no one being there to start the conversations I just want to participate in

      What are some of the conversations that youโ€™d participate in that havenโ€™t been occurring on Cake?

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    • I feel we've had this conversation before. ;)

      Generally speaking, this concerns topics that I am (or just might be) interested in learning more about, without me being the sort of "expert" that is necessary to properly start such conversations. I don't know what I don't know, so I can't really provide an exhaustive "list of things that should be discussed on Cake" - I don't even know if I would really be interested in following these conversations constantly from then on, or whether Cake would really be the best place to discuss it, just because it happens to be the place where I am.

      Specifically though, since you asked I'd like to provide at least one example: a few days ago, I read an article about some "electronic music Youtube subculture" where you "just see cables and blinking lights, and every once in a while someone turns a knob". The article provided the hashtag #eurorack, so I searched for that on Youtube Music, and ended up with an endless playlist that I really enjoy so far.

      According to Wikipedia, "eurorack" is a specific form of modular synthesizers, and that there are several thousand different modules available that people patch together with cables and whatnot. What does each individual module do? How much of the music we hear in the example video is actually created by the setup - and how much of it is just patched in from some external source and then modified. How hard is it to learn programming this device? How much of it is experimentation, and to what extent is it even possible to have an idea for a track and then create it by arranging synthesizer modules on a plate and connecting them with cables?

      The thing is - if there's a "eurorack subculture", it probably already has a place beyond an algorithmically generated playlist on Youtube Music. I can't expect any expert to mysteriously pop up here on Cake and start talking about their hobby. On the other hand, for Cake to grow over time, it needs to grab the attention of any such "subculture" even if it is not the one I'm interested in. :)

      EDIT: In one of the bigger "D'Oh!" moments I've recently had, it just occurred to me that I didn't search for "Eurorack" on Cake before writing the above. Turns out, there is a topic with 4 followers and one conversation, started by someone who seems to be the sort of "expert" I mentioned above. However, that conversation was started 18 months ago, so I can just hope that the expert is still listening if I hit them with my questions later today. ;)

    • I feel we've had this conversation before. ;)

      I was talking to @Vilen the other day, and one of the things that came out of our conversation is that people on Cake generally have an insatiable need to learn new things at a deep dive level.

      The other day, I shared a 15 paragraph first person account from someone who was on the ground in Ireland comparing their countryโ€™s response to the virus to Englandโ€™s response. And people on Cake actually read it. Because they want to learn and have a deep understanding of the pandemic.

      Iโ€™ve been following that 600+ post thread since January, and several times over the past month or so Iโ€™ve been amazed how deeper my understanding of the pandemic is compared to people Iโ€™ve had a hallway conversation with at work.

      You learn an enormous amount on Cake when a conversation like that has community support to grow. (Readers, hereโ€™s a link to that conversation.)

      Iโ€™m dealing with insomnia as I write this and so I was only able to stay focused for the first twelve minutes of the twenty minute video you shared on eurorack. I really enjoyed it and had similar questions as you on how itโ€™s created. One of my favorite bands is CHVRCHES, which is vocals backed up by two guys playing keyboards and synthesizers, so I find fascinating anything related to electronic music. Iโ€™ve watched several documentaries on eighties synth music designers, the German electronic music wave, and music factories like the Wrecking Crew during the 1960s and early 1970s.

    • Saw your edit on finding John Wiseโ€™s conversation on Cake about eurorack.

      I dig some digging and thought you might be interested in some earlier posts from John Wise on building a eurorack.

      So without a case to mount anything in and zero idea of how any of this stuff really works yet I take the plunge and buy my first Eurorack modules.

      First up was the Make Noise Pressure Points, 4MS Spectral Multiband Resonator, and the Black Market Modular Colour Palette filter. An hour later I grabbed the Noise Engineering Loquelic Iteritas oscillator, WMD DPLR Delay, WMD Aperture filter, and the Erogenous Tones Levit8 mixer. Ten pieces of never before played equipment and no real knowledge if Iโ€™d gather enough skills to feel that my purchases were worth it; I did it and will try to not look back.

      They say Eurorack is one of the worst and most expensive habits to acquire and Iโ€™m learning the truth to that.

      From Tag: Eurorack

    • So, five hours after @Factotum reached out to John Wise, he got a reply back.


      This is why I continue to ask you โ€œWhat do you want to talk about on Cake,โ€ Andreas. I canโ€™t guarantee youโ€™ll get this kind of results every time, which can be discouraging when a request is made and the result is *crickets*. But Cake has so much potential. And the more people who contribute new conversations on topic interests theyโ€™re passionate about, and the more people who contribute to those conversations, the greater the number of your requests that Cake will be able to answer.