The decision I have regretted for a year is holding onto my iPhone 10 and skipping the 11. I have missed the better camera, especially the wide-angle third lens.

Lesson learned, but rather than upgrading to the 11 I decided to wait the half year for the 12.

But this morning I tried to watch the Apple intro for the 12 and there was so much fluff and hype I couldn't get through it. Slightly smaller, slightly lighter, 5G. Should I care?

Maybe time to switch to the underhyped Sonys with their superior just about everything that don't sell?

Edit: Wait, I just read about the Pro Max coming in November and that camera looks good. So I guess maybe?

iPhone 12 Pro Max is the only iPhone worth upgrading for me. 

5G - whatever

I don't care about 5G because the 5G network rollout is still years from maturity. Commuting with 5G sounds like so much more fun, but many people are working from home now.

Camera - amazing!

iPhone 12 Pro Max now has sensor-shifting optical image stabilization (wide lens) and regular OIS in the telephoto. Apple ProRaw sounds incredible. I can't wait to tinker with the photos later, knowing I've captured them in the best possible format. 2.5x Optical zoom - yes, please!

I'll be upgrading from my iPhone X to the iPhone 12 Pro Max as soon as it is available for preorder.

I’ll have to stay up past midnight to order mine so I get it before you get yours. 😁

The three camera toting iPhone Pro Max does look like the real deal doesn't it?

Apple ProRaw looks pretty good, and the videos they displayed captured with the XII Pro Max were pretty astouding - Milky Way behind an illuminated tent, etc....

But they're not going to be shipping until when exactly??

November 6 for Preorder of iPhone 12 Pro Max. Shipping a week later.

I plan to completely switch from my Sony ZV-1 and convert it to a fancy webcam. I don’t know how Sony can match that computational photography. It is also mind-blowing to me that a real RAW editing on an iPhone is going mainstream.

Or you could just get a phone and use the $20k worth of Cameras you orrready have.

Rene Ritchie seems to think the camera and software combination is pretty incredible...

I don't see a difference between the iPhone 12 pro and pro max, what am I missing outside of a larger screen size?

As discussed - there are times now when I use my 11 pro to take photos for work.

When I need an image without ... I dunno ... art ... just a solid capture, clear and all in focus then the phone is just fine. Panoramas are great. And yes, yes - convenience et al.

But at the end of the day, no matter how clever the software is at emulating Bokeh or how grunty the processor - it's still a capture through a pissy little bit of glass and a pin hole. Emulation is emulation.

If it's something I should have taken with the proper rig, but used the phone instead, I'm inevitably dissapointed when I get back to base.

Getting closer, tho... The ProMax with its bigger sensor is going to be interesting to try:

The iPhone 12 Pro Max could be Apple's biggest camera jump in yearsGood news for people who like big phoneswww.theverge.com

If you are big into photos, the iPhone 12 Pro Max sounds like a legit jump to make. As for the 5G part, I agree. It sounds like it's overhyped. I'm still rocking my iPhone 7 running the latest iOS 14, so I'm feeling fine with what I got for now. But I'm not the camera buff that others are, so I do think making the jump for camera reasons is legit. 5G? Eh, not so much.

Does a 5G connection to iCloud or Amazon Photos or Adobe's cloud service not strike anyone as a significant improvement??

Instant transfer of images to a cloud based server sounds to me like a very useful feature.

That might also allow an iPadPro or other laptop to edit files in the field.

I understand that the full implementation of 5G will be ongoing for years, but according to Verizon the major cities will all have major 5G networks in the near future - 4-12 months or so. Indeed, the link below says that 5G UltraWide band service will be available in 60 major cities before the end of 2020. It also mentions that AWS - Amazon Web Service - is integrated with Verizon's 5G Edge business accounts...

I think much of the iPhones photography will be done near or within cities - and uploaded immediately to the web with low latency too.

As @DangerDave suggests, serious landscape shooters will probably use larger formats.

Phone photos tend to be of people, and what people are doing, so they will be near those 5G networks - just my thought.

I definitely like the idea of three cameras in my rear pocket all the time with immediate AWS access.

I have also seen some videos of using phone cameras for scanning film and negatives and some of the techniques work pretty darn good. Fast and easy too. They don't have to be an iPhone 12, but it wouldn't hurt if they were - again uploading directly to the Web or IClouid Photos.

Not having to use open hotel WiFI networks, but, instead, nice fast 5G secure cellular networks seems preferable to me as well.... Nor renting movies on a hotel TV when yo can see them on your phone or tablet via 5G seems kind of nice too. JMO

Opinion: The iPhone is for people who drive Toyota CamrysSince 2007, Apple has made the best, most popular smartphone on the planet. The company is expected to launch the new-and-improved iPhone 12 this week, and you can be assured it'll come with the Apple-approved "it just works" experience Steve Jobs fought for.edition.cnn.com

I found this amusing, but then I'm not an Apple fan.

I drive a Ford F-150 FX4, and a Toyota 4Runner Trail edition.

Can I still keep my iPhone??

It has grown so attached to my vehicles in so many ways.....

I have owned many many Toyotas, but never a Camry.

Am I doing something wrong??

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Peter McKinnon has a great review of the iPhone 12 camera. Mind blowing.