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    • I had no idea that there was a scientific study on the effects of wild honey in relieving seasonal allergies. My sweet dreams of eating honey and not feeling guilty are now crushed 😭

      The double blind study found no difference between the placebo group, those who had honey or corn syrup with synthetic honey flavoring. This leaves me wondering if there are at least some other benefits to justify my sweet tooth cravings? Do you know of any?

    • I was afraid of that. 😒

      One day in the car I tuned to NPR near the end of an interview of a scientist, I couldn't tell who. The final question: "What was the greatest scientific advance of the last century."

      My mind quickly raced through all the amazing things, but he simply said "the double-blind study."

      There are so many reasons we want to believe the allergy story with honey and so many reasons the sellers want us to. It takes double blindness to face that we often believe what we so desperately want to.

    • Absolutely agree with you, the double blind study removes all of the inherent human bias. As sad as it was for me to learn that my favorite honey wasn't as magical as I wish it was, at least I now know the facts.

      When I told my girlfriend about this study she was still a bit skeptical even though the results of it are public and unequivocal. This just goes to say that even when we do know the facts we still sometimes prefer not to acknowledge them especially when it comes to what we like eating.

    • I think there are still benefits of honey even if you know about its effects on allergies. One would be a priceless smile after tasting it. In fact there are far worse things to indulge your sweet tooth in like candy. So honey is a good alternative to that craving. It is even more fun buying it at a farmers' market since it feels like an adventure for kids to find a stand with the best honey.

    • Local honey curing allergies is great marketing. The theory makes sense. Just like allergy shots, it exposes you to allergens. It's immunotherapy. But as I have long believed, it's a hoax because we humans are allergic to more than just pollen. Trees, weeds, and grass cause more allergies than pollen. And the pollen in the plant species near the bee farms is different from the pollen in your neighborhood.

      If you have bad allergies, allergy shots might be the way to go. Unprocessed honey comes with risks too, because eating bee parts and mold, the stuff that is commonly processed out in commercial honey, can make you really sick.

      Good find, VilTri.

    • Oh yuck, bee parts and mold. 🀒 Those weren't in the ads I saw.

      It does show how powerful marketing is. For example, orange growers have a lot of marketing dollars because orange juice is popular, but broccoli isn't because yuck. So when you think of oranges you think of Vitamin C: orange growers have the money to advertise their leading attribute.

      And yet broccoli has much more Vitamin C than oranges. Does anyone know that? Or that its calcium content is roughly equivalent to milk.

    • There is a place in Oakdale CA that sells honey from their own farms. They place the bees near different crops to get different flavors. Orange, lavender, sage, etc. They are so darn good I will keep eating them even if they do nothing for allergies.

    • FWIW - i've had some success taking honey to curtail my alergy symptoms. My whole adult life starting in around March and carrying through to about July I've suffered with allergies. I've taken pretty mucl all the OTC meds and they work to one extent or another, but only for a few weeks as i seem to build a resistance to them. When I tried honey, I noticed it took the "edge" off my symptoms - often allowing me to get by without daily pills. It didn't "cure" or "immunize" me, but it definitely makes a difference and allows me to cut back on the Allegra, Benadryl and other chemical remedies and substitute a natural one. YMMV

    • Looks like there's no solid answer on whether local honey helps.

      I was curious about the methodology but didn't find a free version of the whole paper; I did, however, find a Master's thesis that evaluated both the study you linked to as well as a more recent one, and the overall results are inconclusive. In addition, the earlier study only tracked participants for 30 weeks. Meanwhile, allergy shots are generally expected to take longer to have a noticeable impact: the Mayo Clinic says that allergy symptoms "usually improve during the first year of treatment, but the most noticeable improvement often happens during the second year."

      Nature Wanderer makes a good point about the different types of pollen, however. A super common allergen in the Bay Area is mountain cedar, which propagates over wind rather than relying on bees.

    • Really interesting insight. I didn't even think about the honey's effect over the long-term scale such as a year plus as you've pointed out. Perhaps it is that most people would seek immediate relief and the honey just isn't great at treating symptoms, but could be a great solution for actually getting rid of allergies altogether instead of relying on allergy shots.

      Definitely need to ponder on this some more and do further research πŸ€”.

      Thank you for bringing this to light @kzeta!

    • I never even knew that it was supposed to help with allergies! I just eat it because I love it. With peanut butter on a sandwich; on a slice of fresh french bread with soft butter; mixed into Greek yogurt with summer fruits.... yum. And I figure it's probably not as bad for you as refined white sugar, in moderation.

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