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    • Yep, it's heavily tinted. You can see the cool effect of the glass treatment on water droplets in this photo (that reddish hue is refraction on the glass itself, not a reflected sunset!).

    • Great thread! I love roadtripping but range anxiety has always curtailed my interest in going 100% battery. 10 hours a day is impressive!

    • A few days ago a woman was involved in a Tesla 3 rollover at 70 mph on the freeway and her husband posted pics of the car. Incredibly, she and the inside of the car made out pretty well, considering. She has a small compression fracture in her spine and a few bruises but is recovering well.

      Her husband said they will definitely be buying a Tesla 3 as a replacement.

    • I'm really impressed by how well the glass held up. I admit I've wondered how safe it would be in a rollover. I wonder if the driver's compression fracture was caused by a hard landing or by bonking her head on the glass. Either way, I'm glad she came out okay!

    • No doubt, Tesla has the technology! Now, if Elon would just stop tweeting......

      I recently test drove a Model S, and WOW! I like fast cars and have driven quite a few, but nothing accelerates like one of these babies (0-60 in 2.5 sec.). Stomp accelerator pedal to the floor, instant full torque, no noise, no wheel spin, massive smooth acceleration. Well, maybe a rocket accelerates like that. I also tried the Autopilot and it drove so well it creeped me out! I absolutely love to drive so doubt I would ever use Autopilot, but it is impressive. I think I have seen the future...

    • Now, if Elon would just stop tweeting...

      Seriously. 🤦‍♂️

      Stomp accelerator pedal to the floor, instant full torque, no noise, no wheel spin, massive smooth acceleration. Well, maybe a rocket accelerates like that.

      Yeah! The Model 3 isn't quite as fast as a high-end Model S, but it's still a rocket compared to most gas-powered cars.

      There are also all kinds of other little differences that add up to make living with this car unlike living with any other. Things like not having to turn it on or off — you just sit down, put it in gear, and drive. And when you park, you just get out and walk away.

      After getting used to the Model 3, driving a combustion engine car feels weird and noisy and clunky, which wasn't something I expected.

    • Comparing to Waze is a pretty low bar. :) But then you’d think Tesla of all companies would get a little more exact on directions to their own super chargers!

      How many times did you have to reboot the car (technically the infotainment stack)? I’ve read recently that it’s disgustingly common on the 3... almost as much as the original S.

      How well did it handle trading drivers? Everything reset back to your profile sans the rear view mirror? Was the passengers side as comfortable as the drivers side? Did your SO have any comments about road tripping in the car?

      Does the central screen do any of that stupidity about “you must be parked to do this.” When someone from the passenger side started using it?

      I’m heading into the showroom tomorrow afternoon to see the 3 and an X side by side.

    • I start getting a touch of range anxiety when the estimate to the destination supercharger is less than 15% in my model S (late 2014 version). I have found that Tesla's estimates to be pretty good, but I don't do enough long trips to be fully comfortable with the 10%-15% that doesn't bother you. A 5% estimate might just freek me out!

    • How many times did you have to reboot the car (technically the infotainment stack)? I’ve read recently that it’s disgustingly common on the 3... almost as much as the original S.

      I didn't have to reboot ever. But I did try it a couple of times while driving in the interest of science. 👨‍🔬

      One time while I was driving the screen rebooted itself spontaneously. Presumably something had crashed. But it came right back up and wasn't a problem. After a reboot the car picks up right where it left off with navigation and everything else.

      How well did it handle trading drivers? Everything reset back to your profile sans the rear view mirror? Was the passengers side as comfortable as the drivers side? Did your SO have any comments about road tripping in the car?

      This was a solo trip, but I did use different driver profiles depending on whether I was driving or using Autopilot. With Autopilot engaged I would often switch to a profile that moved my seat back a bit and allowed me to stretch out more.

      I haven't had anyone else drive me around in the car yet so I can't give you my opinion of the passenger seat while in motion, but I can tell you that my grandma absolutely loved it and raved about how comfortable the lumbar support was for her back. 😄

      Does the central screen do any of that stupidity about “you must be parked to do this.” When someone from the passenger side started using it?

      No, none of that. All functionality is always available whether you're stopped or moving.

    • Charging time depends entirely on how much charge the battery has when you start charging and how much charge you want to leave with.

      The battery charges much faster when it's less full, and charging gets much slower as you approach 100%, so if you want to optimize charging time the best strategy is to arrive at a supercharger with as low a charge as possible and only charge enough to make it to the next supercharger.

      I preferred to always have a bit of extra charge, and I didn't always stop at every supercharger I could have, so my charges would typically take anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour depending on how far I wanted to go. It works out well if you can time the longer charges for when you're hungry or when there's something interesting to do near the supercharger.

    • I'm the nerd who loves to get in the weeds and test range under a variety of conditions. I would definitely take that bird down to 5% and keep going. There are easy ways to do it w/o much risk/inconvenience.

      When I was younger I would put a grin on my face, rolling into a gas station with my Civic sputtering on fumes. I once even got it to putter out just as I got to the dispensing stall. (I practically high-fived myself). Maintaining motorcycles taught me how fuel delivery and metering reallly worked. So I got used to feeling the first brief stalls, knowing it was air starting to get to the level of the fuel pump intake port in the gas tank. Then I'd swerve a bit in my lane, to slosh whatever gas remained in the tank so that enough of it would slosh onto the intake port every now and then to keep the engine going. I'd feather the throttle at stall to keep the sporadic dribs flowing. Good times. :D

      When I knew I was going to cut it close, I threw a jerry can of gas in the hatchback and didn't blink twice. I did this for years. I still do this, but I'm pretty good at estimating now so don't think much about the jerry can. I've only been burnt twice, overestimating the range of my Audi TT. But I've always had AAA so a phone call and a bit of patience was all I needed to get going again. For a couple of bucks, they give you a gallon or two of gas. And you drive away with a teachable moment.

      In an all electric car I wouldn't think twice about testing range as well. It's important to get to know your car's capabilities. If I'm cutting it close I'd do exactly the same thing I did in my Honda Civic. I'd throw extra fuel in the hatchback and not blink an eye. The only difference would be that in the case of a model 3, what gets thrown in the hatchback is a Honda EU2000i genset. Would not blink an eye.

      I suppose since there's so much chatter about range anxiety, this is not common thinking. But it's natural to anyone who's spent much time planning long range motorcycle or scooter trips.

      How many advriders out there have pics like this?

    • If I'm cutting it close I'd do exactly the same thing I did in my Honda Civic. I'd throw extra fuel in the hatchback and not blink an eye. The only difference would be that in the case of a model 3, what gets thrown in the hatchback is a Honda EU2000i genset.

      I plan to buy a small generator just to be prepared for an apocalyptic end-of-the-world type natural disaster scenario like a Cascadia earthquake, where I might need to evacuate and could have trouble finding electricity.

      But it would truly be an absolute last resort, since you'd be lucky to get maybe 3 or 4 miles per hour of charge out of a 120V generator. It would take literally days just to get enough range to go another couple hundred miles. 😬

    • Oh that's cool! I didn't know what kind of ports were available to tap into. I'm going to pick up one of the CAN connection cables and hook up my arduino and pi hardware, see what I can pull from my buddy's MS.

      I have the standard ODBii connector for ICEs, and the can shield. I'm always setting up simple Flask servers for local rendering of data coming off of sensors. I get I could do something similar...if I could convince my buddy to let me hack his car. lol.

    • When I walked across the Mexican border from Yuma, AZ to get some dental work done, I saw a Tesla in the US parking lot that was humming pretty loud. It was probably 117+ ambient in the sun during the day. Was that humming some sort of self-propelled cooling air for the batteries? There was no one in the car when I walked across at around 1:30pm and left at 3:30pm and it was still humming.

    • That was the battery cooling system you were hearing. The battery is most efficient in a certain temperature range and can be damaged by temperature extremes, so the car will cool or heat it as necessary to keep it at an ideal temperature.

      The Model S and X battery cooling systems can get pretty loud, especially while supercharging. The Model 3 seems to be much quieter.

    • Auto-pilot. Did you notice any consistent behavior about how it navigates curves? When I tried it, it didn't seem to have any sense of cornering technique, like the kind of effort a savvy person might employ--pairing deceleration timing with apex placement. In fact, it always appeared to me to be "surprised" by upcoming curves, and kind of picked lousy late apexes. I kind of hated how it chose to handle curves.

    • "Surprised" is a good way of describing it. It definitely feels like it's only aware of the road for a short distance in front of the car, so it reacts to curves a little later than a human driver would, and without any apparent knowledge of where the apex is or how long the curve will be. In a long curve, you can feel it sort of correct the steering trajectory multiple times through the curve, as if it keeps expecting the curve to end and is surprised when it continues.

      I think this is why it sometimes slows down more than necessary and drifts closer to the outside of the lane than it probably should.

    • lol, yes, I think while the generator is humming along, I'd be mapping the distance to figure out how far away the nearest supercharger might be. :) I wonder if AAA contractors will start putting generators on their trucks.

    • Depending upon temperature a 110V generator may add from 0 to 3 miles of range per hour of charge. The zero amount happens in sub-zero temperatures. If the next charger is 30 miles away you could be waiting 10 hours or more for the car to receive enough of a charge to continue.

      If you'be got the time (and fuel for the generator) then go for it.

    • No, you don't *have* to hit a supercharger. That's a hyperbole. It's "nice" to hit a supercharger, and saves you time. What you really need is plain old power. Any old 110v outlet would do in a pinch. I'd call getting stuck on the road "testing my range" a pinch. :D

      Obviously, I'm a bit more conservative, if I'm on a road trip, and don't know the area. But around where I am, you can't throw a stick w/o hitting a charging station of some type (mostly J-I772 standard). I'd really have to try hard to be stranded.

    • I've already seen a flatbed tow truck with a Tesla Power Wall and both a Tesla branded and another brand (I assume somehting running an industry standard) charger on it.