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    • I think I will prefer to be a vegan but maybe this might appeal to some meat eaters and at least help the poor animals and the environment:

      I am wondering if this new food is as bad for you as regular meat? Would it have the same cholesterol and other unhealthy things?

    • You probably could make it more like the healthier versions of meat than what's raised in factory farms. Though that can be a hard sell; grassfed for example has a bigger flavor and many people prefer corn fed. So it'll be interesting how they can balance the various nutritional profiles and tastes with the increased control.

      Personally I'm more of a fan of the pure plant alternatives like the impossible burger which is a decent amount healthier at least based on the known facts.

    • The Impossible Burger and Beyond Meat are both very tasty in my opinion. I have enjoyed both of them a lot. And they are plant based.

      But in order to get such a tasty and meat-like product they had to add fat and that concerns me. I think they both have almost as much fat as meat. Since I don't think any added fat is healthy I can't consider them to be as healthy as I wish they were.

    • I'm not sure about the original one but the impossible burger 2.0 has about 40% less fat than beef and no cholesterol so it's a healthier option if not a healthy one. That's enough for me personally since I have usually 1-3 burgers a month and they're usually small ones. So this might let me have a few more, and I'm really excited to try it with other dishes where meat is already a smaller part of the meal.

    • Thanks for the info. I did not realize there was that much less fat. But since we try to be "no fat added" as much as possible, even that much fat is too much on a regular basis. But as we are invited to barbecues once in a while it is nice to know we can bring something to throw on the grill that is not meat.

    • I wonder how much is cultural and the power of marketing. With cow’s milk, for example, through brilliant ads, government lobbies, etc., milk became a wholesome symbol of good parenting, even though the idea of monkey’s milk is disgusting.

      But lactose intolerance, animal cruelty, the environment, a sense that it wasn’t as healthy as we thought ... have given rise to competition from plant milks that I don’t think the dairy industry can win. Actually I think they are now demonstrably losing.

      I didn’t say this about meat before the impossible burger, but now I think real meat’s future is looking smaller, even if lab grown.

      Maybe cheese will hang on the longest?

    • I have tried cheese substitutes and they just don't do it for me. I only eat cheese rarely for health and ethical reasons but I savor it.

    • Milk has been an important food of many cultures for thousands of years now so that too will be a tough sell. I think that replacements for it across the board are further out because for processed dairy products the plant based alternatives just aren't close with few exceptions.

      Now some are great but health wise they're not a big improvement or can be even worse with coconut ice cream being a big example. Sadly that's also the one that I like the most.

      The one place that they can move in on though is milk used just as itself in things like cereal or drinks. But then there's the problems with the cost and the fact that due to it being a health choice for many it's subject to fads. X milk is pushed as healthy until other studies say that it's not, and due to the small sample sizes or large number or variables you're likely going to get ones that contradicts even if there's no bias put in by those running it. And then people can move away from the current dairy alternative just as it was gaining steam. This definitely happened with soy milk. And I wouldn't be shocked to see almond milk fall out of favor in the coming years either due to that or the resources it takes to produce.

      And even if they made it at a decent scale they don't do well price wise against the 1.69 half gallon at the super market.

      That right there is the key for any of these alternatives, they need to effectively replace at least some uses of the animal based food and do it at a small premium or ideally lower price. Personally I prefer plant based milks for a few of my main uses of it but buying them is a luxury that I rarely can justify.

    • I am very fond of soy milk and since I purchase it at a pretty good price at Costco it is not so much of a luxury. If the taste is a bit too strong for some people I suggest adding a bit of water to it. I have used it successfully to replace everything I do with milk. The bad press about soy products is usually not accurate when it applies to soy milk. Highly processed soy is not as healthy but soy milk I don't think has any negatives as far as health goes.

      You can check out some soy research studies on my favorite health science research website:

    • The big issue with soy milk is the possible link to breast cancer which has scared some people off or had them cut back. Overall it's fine to consume soy products just that's a potential health risk if you eat too much which is true of many foods but the headlines always push to the extremes so "Soy can cause cancer" was big in the news for awhile.

      But it looks like 1-2 servings per day of soy products is fine:


      This does loop back around to impossible meat though since their 2.0 switched to being soy based to be gluten free.