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    • About a year ago, Star Wars: The Last Jedi hit theatres, forever dividing the fandom. Some people absolutely hated it, other said it was the best Star Wars movie ever. I fall somewhere in between. I didn't love it. I liked The Force Awakens more, but I didn't hate it as much as others either. There was definitely a lot I didn't like about it, so it's not among my favourite. I didn't like the character of Rose Tico, her story arc with Finn didn't make sense, the drama within The Resistance felt overdone, and the space chase with The First Order wasn't that exciting. I felt like Snoke was a wasted character, as was Captain Phasma. I get that Kylo Ren is the main antagonist of the trilogy, but still. Those two characters now seem completely pointless. It wasn't all bad though. It was great to see Yoda again. And Luke. Speaking of, I didn't have a problem with him dying, as many others did. As this new trilogy is meant to look to the future and let go of the past, I felt like it was time for him to follow Han Solo and exit the franchise.

      All in all, not my favourite Star Wars movie, not my least favourite either, but definitely lower down in my list.

      Which side of the force do you fall on when it comes to The Last Jedi?

    • I'm not as big a fan of Star Wars as I am a fan of other franchises - so the more "religious" details of what canon was broken, or what tech shouldn't behave the way it did, escape me.

      Just as a moviegoer and general Science Fiction fan, though, I think this was one of the worst movies I've seen in a while. I hate it when movie characters obviously lack any intrinsic motivation for what they are doing, and only act the way they do to drive forward the plot and/or enable the next insane CGI scene. This is something the definitely happened too often in this movie - and in most scripts influenced by JJ Abrams and his clique in general.

      Similar to the new Star Trek movies, I have now added Star Wars to my list of "movies to eventually see if a friend bought the DVD" instead of paying to see them on the big screen.

    • The Star Wars movie before The Last Jedi was one I liked, probably because I hadn’t seen a Star Wars movie since The Empire Strikes Back thirty years ago. I hadn’t had much interest in the movies over the years in part because the battle scenes were always a yawn for me. And because it became less accessible with each new movie in the franchise.

      One consequence of the thirty year gap was that with The Force Within, there was plenty of new combined with the familiar and it was worth seeing in the theater. I also liked the movie Solo because it was character driven, funny and created an inventive backstory for the character that was enhanced by watching it on the big screen.

      The Last Jedi reminded me why I had taken a thirty year break from watching Star Wars movies. There were some well done scenes—I thought the light saber battle scene with Rose and Kilo Ren was good action—but overall, it seemed like it was a repeat of the now we’re winning, now we’re in trouble, now we’re losing, now who knows.

    • So I never saw the end of THE LAST JEDI because the movie theater we were seeing the film in last year - New York City's only IMAX, with a big group of friends, so it was a huge deal - was evacuated due to smoke and the threat of fire. It turned out to be fine (just a smoldering plastic on elevator situation) but we still haven't gotten around to finishing it...

    • I think one of the bigger mistakes they're making is having different filmmakers make each chapter. J.J. Abrams made his version, which was essentially a nostalgia-fest that set up the future of the franchise. I rather enjoyed that one. I wasn't surprised at Han Solo's fate, as Harrison Ford had made it clear he'd only return to his past characters to see them killed off. But when Rian Johnson took over, his priority was to do something completely different. It made little use of pertinent characters like Snoke, humiliated others like General Hux and completely missed out on the opportunity to let Leia have a more dignified exit from the series. I would have been fine with her dying, floating in the ether of space, but they had to bring her back... why? I'd seen an interview with the director, where he said that previous incarnations of Star Wars had introduced new Jedi powers that hadn't been known before and that's why he felt he could add them, as he needed Rey and Kylo Ren to get to know one another a bit more. But I think a lot of Last Jedi was ham-handed. The whole casino heist is a waste of time for two main characters. There just wasn't anything there for me to enjoy, really. I'll still go see the next one, as I'm a bit of a completist (which is why I finished watching the horrible last seasons of Weeds & Dexter). While J.J. Abrams is returning to complete this trilogy, I have lost faith in the whole thing. I'll check out the tv series that is being worked on, but will tune out of Rian Johnsons' trilogy that is in the works.

    • I think many people liked The Force Awakens because of that. It was new, and it was a continuation of the original trilogy, so people were excited to see how the universe had changed. After watching it, then watching The Last Jedi which was so completely different (as @itipmyhattoyou said having different approaches from different directors), people felt like the two movies were disjointed. Not as coherent as they could've been.

    • I was very much a die hard Star Wars fan, having seen all of the movies, and read many of the books. TLJ was super disappointing to me for a few reasons:

      - Rose. Just Rose. Everything about that character that annoyed me was summed up when she averted the self sacrificial saving play.

      - Oh, the Force can be used for Facetime now. Great. Next it will feature AR powered talking poo. Who knew the force was being turned into a metaphor for iOS?

      - Two powerful force users are fighting a dozen guards on an elevated platform. Should they force push any of the guards off the platform? Apparently not. In fact, they totally forgot they were force users for the entirety of that scene. Not ten minutes later, Kilo Ren casually force slams his general inside the walker. K.

      When they burned the sacred texts and had Luke go back on everything he'd ever said, I felt like the writers were establishing a metaphor of throwing away the canon in favor of new stories to come. And that's cool. Disney wouldn't have paid that much for the franchise if they didn't plan on making another dozen films, and they don't want to have their hands tied by what came before. I get it. But unlike the vast universe of stories within Star Trek, Star Wars was essentially a space based soap opera following the Skywalker family through multiple generations. The franchise's treatment of that legacy was shabby, to say the least.