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    • The long-rumored 16" MacBook Pro is here and shipping very soon.

      The changes in this release appear to be an attempt to rectify the complaints of loyal MacBook users. It's thicker, to accommodate a better keyboard that might actually work. Plus, finally we get 64GB RAM support and solid graphics.

      But, this new 16" sits in the same dated 2016 MacBook Pro chassis, but now a bit clunkier. It seems this release is a long-overdue bandaid, but sadly not innovation. My feelings are mixed. What do you think? Who's getting one? Probably not me.

    • Already have a two years old 15", so, no. But, it would definitely be the one to get if I was looking for a new MBP. Ample processing power, huge battery, six speakers. A dedicated esc key! ;-)

    • I have a 4-year-old MacBook Pro and I've come to think of it as the tech purchase I regret most. I've never been able to type well on it, I used all the Adobe apps and with 16 MB memory max it would struggle, and I ended up spending a lot on the purchase and repairs. Before owning it I was quite the Apple fan boy and had been for decades.

      So the new one addresses my biggest complaints but I just feel that it has taken them 4 years to fix the one I bought and now I need $5,000 more to make it right, but it still isn't exciting like the Asus ZenBook with its dual displays.

      I think I'm gonna go to an Apple store and try the new keyboard, then try an Asus before buying. I just feel like Apple has lost its heart for laptops and it will be another 4 years until we see a significant improvement again from Apple. In the meantime, they'll deny there's a problem like they did with the butterfly keyboards.

    • I totally understand the loyalty. BUT, my Alienware M15 seems to have no problems with AfterFX, Photoshop or any other memory intensive work. For $4000 less. OUCH.

    • 6 1/2 grand for a laptop seems over the top to me too, and I'm writing this post on an iMac Pro so I'm not loathe to spend moulah on good hardware, but really.

      But as @vegasphotog points out, the 8 Tb SSD is not an inexpensive piece by itself - but you can find 4 Tb SSDs for about $500.00 or so, so a pair of them - maybe $2 grand or so for 8 Tb internal SSDs, but probably a lot more for a fast single internal 8Tb SSD

      I can find 8 Tb internal SSDs on B&H anywhere from 2k to 6 or 7 K from either Intel or AngelBird

      I wonder why the need for a large hard drive in a laptop with Thunderbolt 3?

      A 1 Tb SSD boot drive will hold the OS and a whale of alot of applications ( that's what I have in my iMac Pro ) - I always want my data on a seperate drive from my boot drive (with a laptop anyway), and a Thunderbolt 3 external drive won't be that slow will it?

    • The big thing is the speed of the drive, an NVME is EXPENSIVE. My laptop came with 512 which was a bit cramped so I thought about a 2TB but that was about 450. So I picked up a 1TB for about 170 and also have a 2TB SATA SSD in it.

      Edit: I priced one out and it's about 3-4k for a setup I could live with, but you can get a similarly spec'd XPS-15 for about 1k less and that's with an OLED display so the Apple tax is still alive and well.

    • I have a current MacAir and an iPad pro and an X iPhone - but my most used device at home if I am not at my desktop iMac, is an iPad Mini without cellular connection, I've had for several years - big enough, small enough, fast enough with WIFi - and running the latest OS 13.2. 😊

      Like a nice paper back book size for my Kindle app

    • I have owned and come to hate my 2016 MacBook Pro, so I’ve been plotting my escape from Apple, but these reviews are so good I’ll go to an Apple store and try one out.

    • Good video review and good tips on which model to buy and what options to add. The base model and graphics card are good enough according to above.

    • I ended up getting a maxed out 16" MacBook Pro with 64GB ram, 8GB vram, and 2.4ghz 8-core i9. I upgraded from a 2016 MacBook pro 15" touchbar i7.

      I was super psyched when I first got it, but after spending hundreds of hours on it, I'm underwhelmed. It's not all that.

      Performance-wise, it's stellar. I haven't had thermal issues where my CPU is throttled below the base clock. So, it's a bit faster than the last generation in real-world productivity situations. The 64GB of memory is night and day better for the work I do. The video card is so so, but 8GB vram is nice to have.

      However, it's overpriced considering the CPU is a generation behind Intel's latest line. And it's simply pathetic compared to AMD's Ryzen 3 series processors (Intel not Apple to blame for this).

      The touch bar crashes way more often than my previous laptop, the 2016 original touch bar. It probably crashes twice a day. I've been on top of updates hoping software can fix this. So far, no luck.

      My keys are starting to stick, so I'm wondering how it'll hold up after a year or two of use.

      It looks and feels very similar to my 2016 Macbook touch bar. No one I work with noticed I upgraded laptops, but EVERYONE is astonished by how good the speakers sound. If anything, it's a damn good $5k jukebox.

      People say Apple "nailed it" because they might have fixed the keyboard issues and it's a bit faster. I think it's an overdue incremental improvement for the MacBook Pro, but it's a far cry from what pro users should expect from a Mac in 2020. If you need a mac laptop for productivity, it's a good option. But it's not a game changer, like if you've gone PC, this isn't the reason to come back to Apple.

    • I've just started considering one. My six year old Lenovo ThinkPad W530 is giving hints that it wants to retire to Florida. I'm also looking at the ThinkPad P1 (second gen). I'm a little disappointed that so little has changed since I was last in the laptop market--I guess all the engineering effort is going into cell phones. I might look at the Microsoft Surface line--it kinda looks innovative, but I know very little about it. Anyone using one care to comment?

    • If you are going to buy new, have a look at the refurb section on the apple website. Generally speaking, you can save €250 - €300 by buying a refurb laptop. It has teh full 2 year guarantee and is often spec'ed higher than the base model.

    • I’m looking too. My experience with my current 2016 MacBook Pro has been bad enough that I decided to wait on the new one and see what the experience was for people like Kevin. Now that I’m hearing, I’m spooked.

      i was in Costco yesterday playing with the Surface Pro and it felt and looked great fwiw.

    • Thinkpads are mostly marketed at people who want legacy features so that's not surprising; just look at the nub mouse that they still add onto them from the 90's. That being said the P1 offers 3-4x the performance of the W530 in a body that's a fraction the thickness and offers a 4k OLED panel so while it keeps with the standard layout of a laptop they have done a lot to improve the devices.

      I bought a Surface Pro 6 a few months back and did a write up on it:


      And also have a laptop with a decent GPU/4k screen like the P1 so if you have any questions about specific use cases let me know and I might be able to help.

    • The touch bar crashes way more often than my previous laptop, the 2016 original touch bar. It probably crashes twice a day. I've been on top of updates hoping software can fix this. So far, no luck.

      Could you elaborate on this a bit? Does it just stop working or does it cause apps or the OS to crash? What do you do to get it working again? Is this a commonly reported problem? It always struck me as bit of a gimmick--I never missed the programmable function keys from the old 24x80 text screens. They were useful in their day, but GUIs made them unnecessary.