Ezra Klein from Vox did a fascinating podcast with Saul Griffith whose mantras are:
1. The world is not going to embrace the environment in a big way if it means giving up the things we love.
2. We have everything we need to hit the carbon targets to limit warming to non-crisis levels.
3. What we don’t have is time. No more dithering.
For those who prefer reading:
My take: fascinating, credible, hopeful for carbon & global warming. Still bad for waste & pollution. Also: politics makes moving fast not possible. Your take?