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    • Hi Chris,

      Thanks for the welcome.

      My friend uses his as his everyday transport (doesn't drive a car) and needs something reliable that will take him on errands, green-laning or cross-country touring.

      Critically, he needs a bike that will do any weathers, come hail or snow, and the CCM does just that.

      It has a lot more umph than his precious Serow 250. He almost had me converted.

    • You never heard about them because they never made it to North America. They were a fairly serious adventure bike much like what I want though the BMW motor was a bit underpowered. They are however working on a new larger motored version :)

    • Once upon a time I was in contact with Rally Management in California. I almost bit the bullet and purchased a full on rally bike. I was also looking at a used 640 rally bike for $24,000. I guess the bike I want exists but my dreams are larger than my bank account balance :(

    • It's just the top of the line. Lyndon does the bikes for himself and flings them around really, really hard. The quality and costs of the builds reflect that simple reality. There are other rally-prep shops around (I'm sure there are hundreds), e.g. Rally Raid in UK comes to mind, which are probably more mid-riced and not as ambitious. So no, noone has to :) just a glimpse of the possible.

    • I have followed Lyndon's video's "Races To Places" and quite enjoyed them. I am pretty sure the price reflects the quality and performance of the offerings, but as of today I think they'd be wasted on me 🤔 There is a perfect adventure motorcycle for everyone, and they may be very different depending how and where they will be used. I read about many folks sometimes buying "disposable" motorcycles specifically for a trip, and the more I think about it, the more it starts to make sense. For example if I wanted to go visit a far away place where I'd spend several months riding, rental would be prohibitive expensive. Shipping a motorcycle overseas back and forth may also be costly and a hassle. So maybe buying something decent enough, at the intended location, riding it and then perhaps sell if possible or donate it. Not to mention peace of mind of it not being such a high value, in some places where chances of it being stolen or otherwise impounded or destroyed somehow. Thank you for sharing!

    • you can be fed up to build and/or modify your adv bike.. ( and i know this feeling myself) but if you intend to make all the things you plan riding, I guess you 're gonna be deep inside bike maintenance. and it's gonna be more time consuming than put some windscreen, usb plug , big tank and maybe sheep skin ;) . I did a lot of bashing about guys with big bikes... I stopped it when I realised : Would I really go, traveling, in a crazy single track, alone, far away from anything ? (me, ? yes of course ) When out of tarmac roads, 99% of people are riding on pretty fast gravel or light sand roads. Seems big bikes be ok for them...

      It's always a balance in between fun and effiency ( the light more enduro oriented bikes) and sado-masochism which gives you satisfaction at the end. the "yes, i went through 10 km of muddy road on my big GS" .

      Guess what ? I still wonder about the right bike.Preparing my next trip around Russia, Georgia, Turskish mountains, etc... , I plan to work roadbook navigation for future rally. Even if I'm still around the usual 10 kg of luggages for 2 months, I'm seriously considering going with....nothing except some tools and tires levers... Only a phone, a credit card , isreali army bandage and blood stop, a good rope, , as I won't be on Mars... If I need water and fuel for some kazak west desert , temporary cans will be enough.

      It's not a digression, just to point that talking about fun, it's all about weight at the end... But there are different peaces of mind. Mine is to moan and whinge during trips about the hard saddle, the vibrations, the rain in face without screen, etc... But always comes a time where I have the perfect weapon to simply go back home when shit hits the fan .... Now my other bike with the magic starter button stays in the garage and i go riding the Big Red Pig with kickstarter : no battery, no electricity...peace of mind and lot of fun ;) .

      Long aside, sorry, just to remind we ride motorbikes... Overloaded travelers and even too comfortable bikes can miss the point. You seem to be on the full fun side. So maybe you can take an exc KTM and go. some did it for 100 000 kms.. :)

      not me on the photo. just love it :)

    • They did make it. Husaberg FE 570. Add windscreen if desired. Done.

      115kg. 55+ horsepower and gobs of torque (in a mild state of tune!). Magical handling. Relatively quiet but also sounds amazing. Perfectly spaced 6-speed gearbox, and fuel injection. Big single-cavity oil setup. And they nailed the reliability. The engines basically don’t wear at all. I’ve seen confirmed 750+ hours on the original piston, rings (and they didn’t need to rebuild at 750 hours. just kept going.) The valves don’t move either.

      The bike exists. It’s there.

      The closest bike available new is probably the KTM 500 EXC / Husqvarna FE 501.

    • They are Italian, so that says something apparently about quirks. I occasionally chat with an owner from Oz. He loves the motor and says power train is good, and likes his now, after spending some effort to make it better and customize. Having owned & maintained Moto Guzzi's for several years, I know exactly what to expect from something made there.

      Without talking specifics I don't know of, or bashing any brand, as long as the main power train is solid, and one knows the Achile's heels and takes care of them in advance, the 'quality issues' may not be that big a deal with any machine. I came to a philosophy whereby I actually prefer I get as involved as possible with a motorcycle I own before taking it on journeys.

    • Don't quote me on this, but I think SWM bought the Italian factory that was making the oddball Husqvarna 650s that were made in the couple years when BMW owned the brand and befire it got sold to KTM.

      I own TR-650 Terra and am very happy with it (and its engine is the pinnacle of the development of that 650 Rotax thumper) ; of course there are cons, as with any bike, but nothing serious.

      All that being said, depending on which engine they actually use, and how well the factory keeps up the quality side, those might be not too bad.

      Veering aside from SWM, I wish CCM GP450 weren't so exotic, pricey and no longer made :) I test-rode one at one of the Overland events and loved it! Update: I should re-read my own posts in long threads to avoid repetition :)