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    • I'll jump in here, and agree there isn't such a thing, because there isn't a standardised human, so there have to be variables, hence you not getting what you want.

      I used to own three motorcycles shops and build one off custom bikes from the ground up fo 20 years and if i wasn't into being a homeless bum nowadays I would most likely be the guy you would be coming to see.

      I could build 'that bike' for you, but it'd be at a price. You would simply tell me what you wanted and it would happen, but there are companies out there that do this already and as mentioned you are looking at a full on race bike but tuned for more day to day riding.

      So why aren't I riding 'that bike', one simple reason, off bikes that are perfect for you/ me are not perfect for extended travel, you would have a parts list that incorporated potentially parts from a dozen or more companies and one off parts too.

      Sorry to be in agreement with the naysaysers, but its just how it is, Ive looked/ tried/ ridden more than my fair share - XT660Z, WR250R, XR650R, DR650, SXC625, a combination of the five would be nice

    • Dang winter is here and it's putting a damper on my riding. Once upon a time I used to put studded tires on my dirt bike and go riding in the mountains during the winter. I wonder how that'd be on my KTM 640? How many people do full on winter rides on an adventure bike by choice? Could make for some interesting adventures. I know the laws here allow studded vehicle tires but dirt bikes...I'm not so sure.

    • If you have the gear for winter riding, it's pretty awesome. I don't know the specifics of the road laws in your location, but I know that in Finland and most of Scandinavia (and apparently in Canada) it's fully legal in winter months. Check out that Broken Tooth link above for inspiration and here's a blog (sorry it's in German but Google Translate should work well, and videos work well anyway) of a German couple who went to Nordkapp for Christmas :) - ; also here's a post (and there are a few around it that are related to winter prep) of a Finn riding CRF250L Rally in winter -

    • Hi Chris,

      Thanks for the welcome.

      My friend uses his as his everyday transport (doesn't drive a car) and needs something reliable that will take him on errands, green-laning or cross-country touring.

      Critically, he needs a bike that will do any weathers, come hail or snow, and the CCM does just that.

      It has a lot more umph than his precious Serow 250. He almost had me converted.

    • You never heard about them because they never made it to North America. They were a fairly serious adventure bike much like what I want though the BMW motor was a bit underpowered. They are however working on a new larger motored version :)

    • Once upon a time I was in contact with Rally Management in California. I almost bit the bullet and purchased a full on rally bike. I was also looking at a used 640 rally bike for $24,000. I guess the bike I want exists but my dreams are larger than my bank account balance :(

    • It's just the top of the line. Lyndon does the bikes for himself and flings them around really, really hard. The quality and costs of the builds reflect that simple reality. There are other rally-prep shops around (I'm sure there are hundreds), e.g. Rally Raid in UK comes to mind, which are probably more mid-riced and not as ambitious. So no, noone has to :) just a glimpse of the possible.

    • I have followed Lyndon's video's "Races To Places" and quite enjoyed them. I am pretty sure the price reflects the quality and performance of the offerings, but as of today I think they'd be wasted on me 🤔 There is a perfect adventure motorcycle for everyone, and they may be very different depending how and where they will be used. I read about many folks sometimes buying "disposable" motorcycles specifically for a trip, and the more I think about it, the more it starts to make sense. For example if I wanted to go visit a far away place where I'd spend several months riding, rental would be prohibitive expensive. Shipping a motorcycle overseas back and forth may also be costly and a hassle. So maybe buying something decent enough, at the intended location, riding it and then perhaps sell if possible or donate it. Not to mention peace of mind of it not being such a high value, in some places where chances of it being stolen or otherwise impounded or destroyed somehow. Thank you for sharing!

    • you can be fed up to build and/or modify your adv bike.. ( and i know this feeling myself) but if you intend to make all the things you plan riding, I guess you 're gonna be deep inside bike maintenance. and it's gonna be more time consuming than put some windscreen, usb plug , big tank and maybe sheep skin ;) . I did a lot of bashing about guys with big bikes... I stopped it when I realised : Would I really go, traveling, in a crazy single track, alone, far away from anything ? (me, ? yes of course ) When out of tarmac roads, 99% of people are riding on pretty fast gravel or light sand roads. Seems big bikes be ok for them...

      It's always a balance in between fun and effiency ( the light more enduro oriented bikes) and sado-masochism which gives you satisfaction at the end. the "yes, i went through 10 km of muddy road on my big GS" .

      Guess what ? I still wonder about the right bike.Preparing my next trip around Russia, Georgia, Turskish mountains, etc... , I plan to work roadbook navigation for future rally. Even if I'm still around the usual 10 kg of luggages for 2 months, I'm seriously considering going with....nothing except some tools and tires levers... Only a phone, a credit card , isreali army bandage and blood stop, a good rope, , as I won't be on Mars... If I need water and fuel for some kazak west desert , temporary cans will be enough.

      It's not a digression, just to point that talking about fun, it's all about weight at the end... But there are different peaces of mind. Mine is to moan and whinge during trips about the hard saddle, the vibrations, the rain in face without screen, etc... But always comes a time where I have the perfect weapon to simply go back home when shit hits the fan .... Now my other bike with the magic starter button stays in the garage and i go riding the Big Red Pig with kickstarter : no battery, no electricity...peace of mind and lot of fun ;) .

      Long aside, sorry, just to remind we ride motorbikes... Overloaded travelers and even too comfortable bikes can miss the point. You seem to be on the full fun side. So maybe you can take an exc KTM and go. some did it for 100 000 kms.. :)

      not me on the photo. just love it :)