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    • The bigger they are, the harder they fall. Facebook is learning that the hard way as all the negative publicity concerning data collection and data privacy over the past couple of years seems to be taking its toll on the social media giant.

      Hating Facebook is the "cool" thing to do if you roll in tech circles. While average consumers act like sheep and willingly open their lives to Facebook, giving the company access to all aspects of their lives, tech enthusiasts like to think they're better than that, and mock people who continue to use Facebook. So much so that Facebook has begun to develop a reputation as a social network for "grandmas and grandpas", while all the cool young kids hangout on Instagram (which is doing fine despite Facebook's troubles). Though it seems that techies are no longer the only ones who cringe at the thought of using Facebook. 15 million users have decided to break-up with Facebook in the US according to a survey conducted by Edison Research. There's no way to know how Facebook is doing around the globe, but this is definitely bad news for the company.

      I still have an account, though I don't use it anymore. My Facebook feed is just trash if I'm being completely honest. And nobody there ever seemed interested in the things I posted, so when Google announced Google+ would be shutting down it never crossed my mind to give Facebook another go. I just went straight to Twitter (and Cake obviously). Deleting my account is something I've been wanting to do for a long time, as I know I won't lose anything from deleting it. I just haven't gotten around to doing it.

      What's your status like with Facebook? Regular user? No longer have an account? Only use it to keep in touch with others but never post anything yourself? Or are you like me, you just have an account but never use it?

    • Everyone I know still uses Facebook.

      I think for most people the fact that violations of privacy happen so frequently (government data leaked, millions of credit card records stolen from online retailers, Clinton emails), and that the world hasn’t ended for them, makes concerns over Facebook sorta “meh”. Yes, people express outrage when the latest Facebook invasion is in the news, but then they go back to hanging out with friends and family on their timeline or in groups.

      A 15 million decline is only one percent of Facebook’s total users. And it doesn’t look like investors are panicking: it’s stock price hit an all-time high of 190 this summer and is currently trading around 170.

    • I still have a Facebook account, but at this point only because that account owns an FB page where it isn't my decision to close it.

      At some point last year, I posted one last time, notifying everyone that I would no longer see their posts (and personal messages). Just last week, I finally got around to removing all but three people as friends - those three being people who help maintain the page I own.

    • I deactivated my Facebook account several years ago. Since I manage many client pages, I ended up creating a second account solely for that. Then last year deleted my personal account for good. This month I also decided to delete my Instagram account as well.

      It's probably easy to say that I've replaced some or all of the time I spent on those two networks with Twitter, Reddit, Slack, YouTube, RSS, or Cake.

      Leaving Facebook, at that time, was more about how I felt about myself and how I spent my time and less about data privacy. Certainly now, all those factors should be closely considered.

    • I have family members who take me to task for using it and ask me not to post photos of them or their family members there. I feel like they look at me as if I lack some morality because I keep my account. They've suggested to my wife that she delete hers.

      I have a number of friends and contacts like Walt Mossberg (contact more than friend) who have deleted their accounts for moral reasons and given other ways to contact them.

      I keep my account open because it's the only way I can follow certain people like Carol Guzy, the 4-time Pulitzer Prize winning photojournalist I admire so much. And for some people like my godmother in Canada, Facebook is her only network and the only means of communication we have besides talking on the phone.

      I'll pop in every few days to see if I've missed an engagement announcement for a friend as well. I have friends who work at Facebook, some of whom love to lurk on Cake, wonderful people who say they wouldn't work there if they thought the company was immoral.

    • Yep. I’m still fairly active in my wonderful Facebook groups. (The format is far from ideal but there are great people there.) I only post major news (1/yr) on my timeline and I’m grateful for that source of major life events for far-flung friends and family.

      I don’t know enough about the inner workings of Facebook vs. other companies (except cake!) to make any sort of judgement call about morals or future privacy concerns. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • I think my situation is similar to @kwthom in that my spouse does the Facebook timeline reading of family and friend announcements for the two of us. I therefore have the luxury of staying off Facebook and can stay in touch with just emails and phone calls.

    • I've already given too much data to corporate interests for 'free' (Google, Amazon, etc.), because I hit the box that allowed those entities the ability to maintain my info on behalf of them providing useful tools.

      Communication in that paradigm of FB? 😒 Pass.

    • I use Facebook for effective and shameless self promotion via a page and some pages that I manage. I belong to a few groups for essentially the same purpose.
      It's all one-way traffic though - outwards.
      That's where my interest ends and incoming communications are generally not accepted.

      I've never completed my profile - f*** 'em - would be my staus!

    • Interesting. I never joined FB because I didn't think its communication model made any sense for me--it seemed more geared to press releases, while I was more of a one-on-one type. Of course, later it became very clear what its business was all about, so I never looked back.

    • But seriously, what I can't get past / astounds me with Facebook is that is how different people's meatspace persona can be from their online presence.

      I work in the motorcycle industry and when I used to accept friendship requests from casual/workplace acquaintances I was genuinely surprised by how much people changed between spaces.

      The number of times I though 'yeah he's cool (when I talked to him in the workplace) - OK I'll let him in', only to discover the Islamaphobic racist bullshit they typically posted online - it literally shocked me.

      No more - Friendship request are deleted out of hand - unless I've known them a very long time.

    • The only reason I had a Facebook account was to watch live broadcasts of my congressman's meetings (because the venue was full and that was the only place to watch). I never completed a profile or provided more than minimum information to create an account.

      I have since removed my account.

    • Well, losing users is only the start of it:

      From the article:

      "U.S. users older than 18 spent 10 percent less time on Facebook in October 2018 than they had in the same month the previous year"

      10% YoY engagement drop is seriously bad.

      BTW, never created FB account, but as @DangerDave's meme said, it's because I basically hate people. Don't have a need to connect with folks I was in elementary school with, their aunt, or my kid's classmates parents. So, instead of having to be rude and decline rando's 'friend' requests I just decline the whole experience. :-)

    • I'm suspecting there is a rather significant percentage of Cake users that either have never had a FB account, or have an account and it's inactive.

      Perhaps as a result of the Google+ influence?

    • I consider fb a freak show. I don't hate people in general but am against being part of crowds, which is exactly what fb feels like to me. I seek interesting interactions through social media or otherwise, at a level that brings value, with intelligence and a true connection (even if ephemeral), not some narcissistic graphical snowballing admiration.

    • No more - Friendship request are deleted out of hand - unless I've known them a very long time.

      I never had a problem ignoring bots and SPAM, friend requests and suggestions on fb ought to be their absolute cheesiest expression... IRL I've also experienced all degrees of "friendship" so as to learn what is the meaning of a true friend.

    • I feel like they look at me as if I lack some morality because I keep my account. They've suggested to my wife that she delete hers.

      I think that's extreme. It's not lack of morality but rather some kind of soft spot, a gentle weakness.. Besides, how would one catch fish if they were afraid of the lake? 🙇

    • Great share, Drac. I thought Acton made a profound statement about the no win scenario that curators go through in deciding what’s inappropriate:

      “To be brutally honest, the curated networks — the open networks — struggle to decide what’s hate speech and what’s not hate speech. ... Apple struggles to decide what’s a good app and what’s a bad app. Google struggles with what’s a good website and what’s a bad website. These companies are not equipped to make these decisions.”

    • On Wednesday's issue, Ms Brooker added on Twitter: "Look at what happens when we let one company control everything.

      "I figured this could happen eventually but it's extremely crippling to be part of this monopoly."

      (from your story link...)

      There are ways to alleviate that problem... 😂🤣