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    • cvdavis

      -end the need for personal car ownership for many people
      -people who own a self driving car may use it to get to work then the car will go out and 'work' a full day in order to pay the monthly payments for you
      -car dealerships may largely be eliminated as fewer cars are needed
      -flex time hours for work may become more prevalent
      -what a waste to own a vehicle and have it sit there idle for about 23 out of 24 hours a day
      -garages will not be needed on so many houses
      -people may decide more things in their lives can be borrowed short term
      -self driving ambulances
      -self driving fire trucks
      -self driving heavy equipment building roads
      -fewer cars on the road
      -more personalized mini aero enclosed bicycles
      -less need for large heavy safety vehicles
      -more just in time shipping or manufacturing
      -more time to surf the web
      -more time to waste on social media
      -more karaoke car shows
      -more sex on the road
      -fewer mechanics
      -quieter streets
      -more long distance but regular trips
      -fewer people wearing seat belts
      -less pedestrian fatalities
      -more motorcycles on the roads
      -more focus on vehicle aerodynamics
      -lighter vehicles
      -fewer gas stations
      -fewer traffic lights
      -more smart traffic signals
      -longer commutes acceptable
      -more urban sprawl
      -vehicles that link up like trains
      -fewer pairs of sunglasses being sold (less need for them while driving)
      -more coffee consumed on the way to work
      -more people eating while in a vehicles
      -an increase in the number of drivethrough restaurants
      -cleaner air
      -more kids playing in the streets
      -faster speed limits on urban streets
      -fewer play ground zones
      -less litigation for traffic accidents
      -reduced auto repair shops
      -huge savings in body work
      -less manufacturing for auto parts
      -the lowering of steel prices
      -increase in the amount of carbon fibre being produced
      -fewer police officers getting run over by vehicles
      -fewer traffic police officers
      -narrower roads

      Here's a list I just made up on the fly. Your thoughts? It's hard to argue that self driving cars won't have a large effect on our societies.

    • bstrong

      I also wonder what the tipping point is in order for some of these larger changes to society and infrastructure to happen. 51% self driving cars on the road? Some argue that 100% is required and that it will take a very very long time, Others will argue that It’s right around the corner. Hmm...

    • kevin

      In the short term, Elon Musk believes traffic will actually get worse when self-driving cars are introduced. He talks about it in this Ted talk.

      Self-driving ride hailing services are just around the corner, and they promise to provide cheaper per mile transportation than owning your own vehicles. The most expensive part of Uber, the driver, is being cut out. Large economies-of-scale fleets should drive down maintenance cost. Insurance rates should go down. This will provide more people access to transportation by car. Self-driving cars must behave like human drivers until that tipping point happens. In the meantime more cars, self-driving or not, will congest our roads even more 😢.

    • bstrong
      Brian Strong

      Self-driving cars must behave like human drivers until that tipping point happens.

      Are you sure? We’re pretty bad drivers. 😉

    • kevin

      Self-driving cars could provide more throughput on current roads by driving faster, closer, and weaving between each other in light-less intersections. But that can't happen until all human drivers are off those roads. Until then they need to obey traffic lights, drive the human-safe speed limits, and provide high following distance so the humans can react safely -- all things that create traffic when roads get congested.

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