You know what's funny? Masses obey feelings derived from primordial instincts. And he knows it.
You know what's funny? Masses obey feelings derived from primordial instincts. And he knows it.
he finally wore a mask. If he didn’t affect the lives of so many people I’d pity him.
We are protecting others, we don't need to freak out. This is science and facts not politics. I realize that there are incoviences, but we need to think of others.
This Utah meeting that erupted in chaos yesterday...
Heh. Google is doing its part with this notification on Maps:
Guess what the main reasons are before reading :)
Well mask bans are starting to appear in some places.
Here in Calgary the officers also don’t wear masks. I get it. Maybe they could wear face shields though as people can still see their expression clearly. I don’t believe they do though but you might see that in the future.
Sadly Canadians (Small but vocal minority) have now fallen for numerous conspiracy theories and are demonstrating against masks. Qanon, anti-vaccers, Trump supporters and other conspiracy believers has felled into the rabbit hole. They may win a Darwin Award but take an innocent person or group with them. Very depressing.
I have no words. 😢
It just seems like we’re living in a C grade cheap Hollywood film. I really can’t believe this is happening.
Fortunately they are the minority.
Wearing face masks and thereby reducing viral load and hence illness severity, may be helping develop heard immunity. Let’s hope so.
This was my favorite quote from the article:
Canada is at heart an open and accepting place. Judged against an ideal, we fall short; judged against the world as it is, we shine.
I think the disagreement about masks between much of public and health professionals is because of a lack of precision about exactly what they are talking about - there are many different types of masks, and the skill with which they are worn seems to vary highly in the US
The statements that masks offer protection to the public may or may not be true depending on precisely what masks are being discussed, and how carefully they are donned, worn and removed, and in what environment they are worn.
Almost no masks, except N95 respirators, really offer true protection to the wearer in a highly contaminated virion infused environment - If they do protect the wearer, then the outer surface of the mask is highly contaminated, and needs to be removed and disposed of carefully with sterile technique. Most health professionals all know this and do it well, but they also see the public make many many mistakes with masks, and those mistakes MAY NOT be risk free, to the wearer, or the public. This causes some health professionals to be less than enthusiastic about the public wearing masks. Risks versus benefits and all that. Mask wearing poorly done might lead to a lethal outcome for someone. Oh my!!
However, there is overwhelming evidence from much of Asia, that most masks do help protect the public from infection in a general public environment, not in an Emergency Room. Probably because if masks are worn by unaware infected people, their spittle does not fly 6-12 feet into the local environmental air, but is captured by the mask they wear, and thus helps protect their fellow citizens from that exposure. If those non-infected citizens are also wearing a mask that removes 50-70% of airborne particles, their risk is also even lower still. It has even been suggested that the folks who get Covid while wearing a mask, aren't as sick because the toxic dose was smaller than if they had not been wearing a mask.
Wearing masks does not diminish the importance of social distancing, it is additive to social distancing.
As to comments about used masks blowing down the gutter, this is another point that demonstrates how careless many people are about proper mask techniques. I see so many folks wearing them below their noses, and that is obviously a waste of their time - it protects neither the wearer nor their fellow citizens.
Last summer there was an thread here on Cake about disinfecting mail and packages from Amazon - there can be no doubt that both of these items are potential sources of viral spread - BUT - the reality seems to be that if one is reasonably careful and washes their hands after handling mail and packages and groceries, the risk to oneself is pretty low.
One MIGHT suggest that many Americans are really not very concerned about the health of the elderly citizens around them - for the elderly, over 80, are really the people at the highest risks of dying from Covid 19.
I do wear a mask when I go out into stores, not because I really believe the paper surgical mask I bought from China, via Amazon, will prevent me from getting infected if I am in a crowded, indoor, poorly ventilated space, but might help to protect my fellow Americans if I were to become infected but unaware, so that they can feel safer.
My primary protection is staying out of doors, over 6 feet away, and frequent hand washing. So far, it seems to be working.
And then we have politicians who refuse to don masks. Just imagine if the virus we are dealing with were Ebola, and about 90% lethal, and not SARS Cov 2.
Do you think those politicians would allow people around them with out masks??
Res ipsa loquitur!!
exactly
America!
So, now we have this brought to the surface...
"The Biden-Harris transition team website outlines the same approach. The new administration plans to "implement mask mandates nationwide by working with governors and mayors and by asking the American people to do what they do best: step up in a time of crisis."
Does this improve the likelihood that there will be an increase in this effort?
I think it’s the right way to do it and will help. A lot of states who resisted masks have huge outbreaks now and even Utah has now mandated them. The pushback there seems pretty mild to me, although some of the protesters signs were pretty dramatic. Tyranny, doncha know.
Trump made mask wearing political. Too bad he couldn’t just step up and say it would likely significantly slow the spread. No chance of that happening. What a total train wreck we have.
Even the dakotas are giving up their mask insanity.
let all the antimaskers have a huge party in a stadium. Give them free food and alcohol. Keep them there for two months and give them a reasonable wage. Then we’d help slow the spread.
Well, small victories....maybe even big ones. My Fox-watching 90 year-old anti-masking Utah father in law is now all in on masks and is asking what idiot wouldn't wear one? That after some of his friends got Covid and are critically ill. One just had a blood clot removed from his heart after contracting Covid.
Too soon we grow old, too late we grow smart, eh!? 😃
Another mask disparager now mandating: