I love this! Should I do another thread for Florence this week?
I love this! Should I do another thread for Florence this week?
Please leave your tips and we'll make another post for Florence soon :)
I never really thought of myself as a backpacking tourist, but, I traveled throughout Italy with a backpack. LOL At the time I did not realize how St. Marks is a big deal stop. Not into big crowds but hanging out in that piazza let me envision myself on the set of the next James Bond movie. hahahah
One of my main inspirations to visit Italy and specifically Venice was when I was working as a chauffeur in college and our clients back then were Old Money and one of my regulars emphatically shared that I must see Florence before I die and before Florence sinks away forever. Funny how that seed was planted and ten years later there I was.
St. Mark's Basilica is beautiful. When I worked at SmugMug, I would be swept away by the detail in some cathedrals which was hard to see in photos on our screens, so I would take multiple photos and stitch them together into a high-res panorama that that we could print huge on the walls — up to 150 inches high. Then you would see all kinds of detail emerge.
I shot many frames of St. John's with the intent to make a pano, but made one of the Duomo cathedral in Milan instead. Here are some of the frames I shot of St. John's:
Thank you, that will come in handy when I am there late this year.
Let me give y'all an important tip on coffee there :)
Back when I was planning my first ever visit to La Serenissima, I was inundated by unsolicited commentary from various friends, mostly moaning about how it is the most expensive and megatouristic place i Europe and canals smell and whatnot. Coffee at 15 euro a pop featured prominently in those anecdotes.
While some of the epithets might be true (as they are for any hugely (and deservedly) popular tourist places), all of the bad stuff is easily avoided with a little planning and some common sense. But on the topic of coffee, it's NOT really that expensive, and not even necessarily in the touristic places. Thing is, if you enter a coffee place and look around, you will be able to find a plaque or piece of paper stating terms of service. You will also notice that the locals, if any, drink their espresso at the counter. If you look at the terms of service, you will discover that an excellent espresso by itself would cost, I dunno these days, let's say 1 euro. However if you sit down at a table inside, your costs immediately jump +3-5 euros. And if you sit at a table *outside*, that's another 4-6 euros. (you may have to adjust numbers for inflation, but the idea is the same). And that's how you end up with a 15-euro espresso. There's nothing bad in that in itself, sitting at an outside table in the early morning sun at St.Mark square nursing an espresso is well worth it as a one-off experience, but don't let that be your gold standard or turn you away from the city.
As to the the food in general, the situation is a bit complex. It's not the food is *bad*. It's perfectly fine, if somewhat non-trivial to find because of the tourist-induced mediocreness. But it is also not exactly for everyone's tastes - polenta, fried sardines, chopped liver, all heavy with onions, etc. And also due to the island logistics of the place, good food is really expensive.
And do pay attention to the sweets! They are often amazing, and for a really tasty and surprising souvenir, do buy some mostarda di frutta! It's essentially a sort of fruit jam with mustard in it :)
SUCH A GOOD TIP on the outdoor seating fees. This is so true - you may have seen the hubbub around a 43 euro bill for 2 waters and 2 coffees last year. The biggest fee jump will be found in the cafes around St. Mark's Square, but any ideal seating arrangement in a major tourist destination in Europe will usually involve additional fees.
That's one fine looking photograph. Needs a big arrow pointing downwards, saying "you are here".
is that a drone pic or some kind of aerial excursion?
Y'know, I hate stealing images from the net without attribution, but that was one of those images that gets passed around on Instagram and Reddit and no one seems to know where it came from.
I spied a few that were lovely. This one apparently was taken by this Venice-based photographer, but I couldn't find it on his site.
A couple more lovely shots that I don't know where they came from:
The complaints about the prices in the Piazza San Marco have always struck me as a little strange, sort of like complaining that the Cable Car in San Francisco is too slow. You're not paying for coffee or beer, you're paying for sitting in the Piazza San Marco at Quadri or Florian, both of which are several hundred years old. That may or may not mean anything to you, and if it doesn't then by all means don't stop there--there's plenty of decent coffee available for a few Euros elsewhere.
I think that many travelers are just so tired / overwhelmed that they want to get a coffee at XYZ location. Paying for the privilege of sitting when you have sore feet or using the bathroom if you have to wee can be worth it!
Multiply that by one million if you have small children..!
We were in Venice last May. Stayed at the JW Marriott on it's own island for a couple of days. It was just okay.
The best place we stayed was the Hotel Dei Dogi (https://www.dahotels.com/grand-hotel-dei-dogi-venezia/). Incredible location, staff, management, and facility. It's away from the crowds (look up it's connection with the word "ghetto") but easy walk to shops, restaurants, best pizza place in the world, gelato, the municipal water taxis, the train station, and churches.
Speaking of churches - this hotel is 3 buildings away from a church few people visit even though it houses one of the largest collections of paintings by Tintoretto any where (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintoretto) including a couple of his most famous. If you visit ask about the one that was stolen in 1969.
EVERYTHING in Venice Goes by water - Funerals
Be careful if you tour Murano. While the glass sculptures and related items are incredible, they are very expensive and one of those things that when you get home say to yourself "why?"
Why is Venice sinking? Consider the weight of what these ships contribute from May until Oct.
There are an average of 5 ships per day with 2000 passengers weighing an average of 125 pounds ~ 1.25 M pounds per day. Worse - most of them don't dine in Venice since they have meals provided on the ships. But worse yet - at least half of them have to go pee while they are walking around.