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    • I was surprised to see that a conversation on the current protests in the US didn't exist yet, so I thought I'd get the ball rolling. I know Cake has been rather bleak lately will all the negativity going on due to COVID-19, but we can't really ignore what's going on in the US with regards to the police killing of George Floyd. Racism has been a big issue in the US for a long time, even I as an outsider can see that. But this latest incident seems to have been the straw that broke the camel's back. Protests have broken out all over the US, and even outside of the US. It's a global movement and it seems to be the biggest #BlackLivesMatter movement ever.

      Even Anonymous returned from his/her/their hiatus.

      Have any personal experiences to share? Saw something online worth discussing? Just feel like ranting? The floor is open.

    • Might be hard to stomach, but the protests against police brutality seem to have, encouraged even more police brutality?

    • It’s important not to have your world view determined only by what makes the headlines.

      There are stories from the protests that don’t meet the “If it bleeds, it leads” requirements of the BREAKING NEWS media, so I thought I’d share a few stories that haven’t been covered widely.








    • Thank you, @StephenL for posting these other stories.

      We have an emergency curfew in place In Salt Lake City today. A riot broke out downtown yesterday and the governor called out the national guard. The mayor of the city (a recently-elected woman) was adamant that police make sure no one got hurt. She asked them to remember their peace-keeping duty, and to turn the other cheek when rioters take out their frustrations on police property.

      Our county sheriff was also out in the riot talking to protesters—she is a Latina.

      The scariest video I saw showed a white man about 50-60 years old climbing out of his car with a bow and arrow (!) and threatening to shoot protesters. He was immediately swarmed and his car was overturned. Charges will be filed against him. (I thought it was amazing in this gun-loving state that a bow-and-arrow was the only weapon we saw.)

      Protesters set fire to a police car. That was about the only offense journalists could find even though they had helicopters in the air looking for anything they could focus on. When the car didn’t burn very well, protesters then started moving close to the car so they could get selfies. (!) *Everyone* had a cellphone and everyone was taking video or photos. There was a girl with a megaphone leading others in protest chants—kind of like a cheerleader. The whole thing was very weird.

      Twitter lit up with backseat drivers and Monday morning quarterbacks. My own legislative representative posted a jab at SLC leaders telling them they were being ineffective and they should shut the whole thing down with force. He was basically shouted off the platform. I will remember his ridiculous tweets come November.

      Utah has a VERY SMALL number of African American citizens, so it wasn’t really a Black Lives Matter protest, it was a protest against general inequality. On our last ballot, citizens voted for Medicare expansion, legalization of marijuana, and fair districting. Every one of these initiatives was then overturned by the legislature, which made people very angry.

      Now, with sudden high unemployment and the isolation that the pandemic has necessitated, people are at the end of their rope...

    • It seems to me the three greatest shames of our country were the race riots of the 60s, the Vietnam War, and Nixon’s lawlessness. They came in rapid succession. Having lived through them as a child and teen, I thought no one of my generation would make the mistakes that led to them again.

      But the same generation that protested Vietnam made the decision to invade Iraq. And old white people of the Vietnam/Nixon/race riot era are in place all over again but taking lawlessness, income disparity and the other factors to new levels. Surely we must be living in a simulation.

    • Chris, thank you for posting that video of Trevor Noah thinking through these recent events. I have forwarded it to my kids and we are having some good conversations about what is happening all around us.

    • Wasn’t it amazing? I’ll re-link it here.

      I really thought what we needed to heal our wounds of the past was a young, gracious black couple in the White House who could become the Jacinda Arderns of the world — widely admired, Nobel Peace Prize Winning, helping to fashion widely adopted global initiatives for things like climate change, able to lift us from economic despair to prosperity, with a First Lady who became the only book author in history to fill stadiums on a book tour.

      Surely that would show America that our strength is our diversity, being the one country that is a true melting pot. Jews like Einstein had shown us earlier in the century that they were not the devils we imagined them to be.

    • We need Michelle to be Biden’s VP.

      Perhaps the most unforgettable comment I’ve heard in years came from George Litt, one of Obama’s speech writers, during his interview with Terry Gross. She asked why the rage against Obama when he had no scandals and a good record with the economy.

      Litt, who is white, said he struggled with that for 7 years, trying to understand. Finally, he said, he landed on an answer that made sense to him: nothing is more threatening to a white supremacist than an intelligent, successful black man.

      I have wondered if white supremacists carrying torches and chanting “Jews will not replace us” feel the same threat.

    • I used to think that Michele would be a good choice. Then I read her book. No way. That would not be fair to her. Barack is really the one with the vision when it comes to national concerns. She makes that very clear in her book.

      I wonder if Barack would consider being Biden’s Chief of Staff...?

    • Don't let this uniform fool you: the Oxxford suit, a college diploma, the job I have. Oh, sure, I'm the real front office nigger, the one they point to when they say: You see, a black man can go high. Well, it's true for me, because I was one of the few with a daddy who could pay for a real education, which is the only way a black man climbs. So I've climbed, and maybe I'll make it to the top and be a company director yet. I'm still young enough, and I'll admit I'd like it; so would the company. I know one thing. If there's a choice between me and a white man, and providing I can cut the mustard, I'll get the job. That's the way the dice are rolling, baby; they're weighted my way because the p.r. department and some others would just love to shout: Look at us! We've got a board room black!

      Well, as I said, don't let the façade fool you. I'm still a member of my race. When something happens like it did today, I don't just get angry. I burn and loathe and hate - everything that's white.

      The words of Leonard Wingate from Wheels (1971) by Arthur Hailey.

    • I’m sorry, I don’t know of any studies. It seems the journalist who researched this story couldn’t find any studies either.

      It makes one wonder if this is a blind spot by design—like the way studying the impact of firearms on society is illegal so that data doesn’t become available that could be used to change the status quo...?

      I know of some anecdotal evidence that would indicate domestic problems are common, but I don’t have/know anything beyond that.