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    • It seems impossible that Trumpism has pushed Covid off the front page and Covid has pushed the climate crisis off.

      What bothers me is wrt Covid, there are many reports that Covid fatigue has set in to the point that we're not as good about distancing and mask wearing anymore. If all we're asked to do is distance and wear a mask, that seems to be a way lower bar than what we have to do to stem the climate and extinction crises.

      Do you think that we're just fatigued with it to the point that we shrug?

    • That's really the point that has me worried as well - not just because of any fatigue after dealing with this for several months, but because how we are and have been dealing with this at all.

      We have a good portion of our populations outright denying that CoViD is even a thing while science agrees that it is, and even among those people who are not denying anything, the understanding of the whole situation is very limited. Just last week I had to explain to someone that incidence values going down does not mean that we should give up existing lockdown restrictions, simply because those values are not the cause but just another effect.

      On top of that, we have politicians that are still more afraid about now and the next week than about any long-term effects.

      If we can't even handle a very immediate and very obvious crisis properly, how are we supposed to handle something as slow-burning and long-term as the climate crisis?

    • What happens when humanity has to face a really serious pandemic with say a 30-40% death rate? We’re screwed if this time is any indication. Science has won but politics has lost.

    • I think what we should internalize is that either one of us could perish, more so given aggravating circumstances. But it won't be the end of humanity, perhaps in fact it will be an evolutionary stage. Too much we rely on our artificially manufactures lives, and there is nothing natural in that. Success as a species is not in an ever growing population numbers. Is it? We are afraid of our own deaths more than to think globally. Consciousness seems to be deeply rooted in our gut, rather than in our brain.

    • Some people, Elon Musk being one of them, think that shrinking population growth of humans is going to be a serious problem. Malthusian crunch didn’t happen but the environment has sure taken a crazy hit. I get what you’re saying about sustainability but I don’t think billions of human deaths is really an ethically acceptable solution. We have the power to overcome much of the evolutionary pressures other creatures face and I think we should continue to follow that path. We will figure out a balance but let’s hope it’s before we have much worse carnage of the planet, it’s species and humans.

    • To me it's only worth it if we truly evolve. Mentally, intellectually, and being artistically creative. I could care less for more of the same kitsch we see for the last decade in all areas of 'spiritual; arts, on an even bigger scale. Not to mention some just live to eat, not even good foods, why should I encourage those living. I look at some kids around, they grow up like drones, thanks to the society and their parents.

    • Wow, now you're getting into serious philosophical debates. I for one am not going to say they're not really living so lets just let them all perish in the next pandemic without trying. Humanity needs to continue making the quality of life higher while also paying more attention to the environment and how to somehow make things sustainable. I won't be one to say this kind of life is more valuable than that kind of life. Maybe you care to expand on your views or have a link to someone who's expanded on this.

      I don't see the need for humans to physically or mentally evolve any more. We can culturally 'evolve' to be more caring, compassionate and focus on things that truly matter. But even then, who am I to say someone that is spending a large chunk of their life in a VR world on in front of an X-box doesn't deserve to live a long life and procreate.

    • I dont have a link. and don't need one We, as species are getting dumber and dumber. There are several kinds of classifying intelligence, for example emotional intelligence is one of them.

    • How do you define dumb? IQ test results are on the rise. Humans fell for crazy scams and nonsense before like during the Spanish flu. Humans are far removed from nature now so we don’t have to use those skills anymore. Staring at a having some effects but it’s still too early I’d say to call people dumber. Uh...literacy rates may be going down due to less reading but that might just be in certain areas and I can’t confirm that. What about all the learning on YouTube and watching videos? The average person is certainly exposed to more ideas and a wider worldview. I would say we aren’t getting dumber but we appear in my opinion to be losing our ability to focus. I don’t have any statistics to back this up at the moment and some is feeling, conjecture and inaccurate memories combined with anecdotal experience.

    • I also wonder if it’s just that we now have access to the words and thoughts of the less intelligent among us because of the internet.

    • Very interesting, and I am glad to see this type of farming returning.

      But I feel this isn't really new, but a return to a way of farming that predates the industrial revolution and its introduction of synthetic ammonia. Prior to the synthesis of ammonia, farmer's routinely added manure to soils, and composted vegetation back into their soils to improve them.

      I hesitate to point out that many gardiner's have been doing this for years, also.

      I till my leaves and grass clippings from my yard into my garden each winter, add a ton of horse manure, and use no pesticides in my garden. What started as a terrible clay topsoil 30 years ago, from an old cornfield, is now a dark black organic soil full of earthworms.

      It is kind of funny that returning carbon to the soil is such a "new idea". Farmers have been using cow and sheep manure as fertilizer for milleniia.

      There are several TED talks about using animals and their solid waste to return carbon and nitrogen to the soil.

      Allan Savory has an excellent one here from 2013

      Not every one agrees with Mr Savory though - since the animal carcasses are harvested for food, and are not returned to the soils as wild carcasses do: hence, reducing the carbon and nitrogen compounds returned to the soil by the rotting carcasses of animals.

      It is alarming when one realizes the majority of land surfaces on the globe are tending toward desertification, whether one accepts all of Mr Savory's hypotheses or not.

      I am certain that bare soil absorbs more warming than a soil covered with green leaves. Walking barefoot will quickly demonstrate that sunlit grass is much much cooler than bare dry compacted dirt or cement.....

    • My mother was not politically astute when I was a child. (We once asked our parents what the difference was between the two parties and they did not know.)

      But she was into organic gardening. Because we did not live on a farm, she would go to farmers and get manure from them to put on the garden. She also required me to dig holes to bury organic waste products in so that the next year she could plant in those places. For two or three years we also had a compost pile but after moving away from that location, she did not use that method again.

      The only thing that I can remember her buying to prepare the soil was peat moss.

    • I don't mean dumb in the individual sense, although all the internet exposure to other people's ideas isn't always benefic especially with those inclined to embrace 'shortcuts' as you well noted.

      I refer more to the global, human society, we'd have expected great advancements, as a culture raising standards and setting long term evolutionary goals once science and technology afforded us to no longer fear lack of food or shelter tomorrow. I am sure I miss some aspects, but he way I see it, every generation is born, lives through almost same cycle their ancestors did, albeit much easier but also arguably less exciting, and then die. Same mistakes appear to persist when it comes to our inherent instincts.

      So if society and humanity could be regarded as a gigantic organism, think of it like a bee hive for example, where is the evolution and progress and more importantly what should it be? We have come to realize the resources of the planet are starting to become an issue, while our 'ways of life' are causing permanent changes to the environment. We tend view those changes as 'bad' only because again, they appear to influence our lives in negative ways. So to change environment we need to change us, but what if we planned for it, researched, and jumped ship to other planets? That's the kind of evolution that requires generations becoming 'smarter'.

    • Ah okay now I see what you’re getting at. Few things. First it’s easy to be complacent when life is so ‘easy’. We ha e an abundance of wealth and get lost in our own little bubble of enjoyment. But humans are making things better and there’s been some new books written about it. Care for the planet is growing, healthy lifestyles are at least talked about a lot. Compassion crosses borders and you have things like the Gates Foundation. I see a lot of complacency but I also see a lot of caring. People have to figure out how they can help and I’d say that more and more voters are voting for environmental policies. We are seeing it in this country and also growing awareness and caring about it in the USA. There’s actually much to be optimistic about. The climate deniers for instance are losing. Look at how far that issue has come in 5 years. Even here in Alberta an rich oil province is facing the eventual closure of the oil industry. That’s huge huge change. The human condition is changing but sometimes it requires an older generation with outdated ideas to die out so the torch passes to the new generation.

    • Oh I forgot to mention we need to change corporate incentives to move away from quarterly profits. We are seeing a strong trend to ethical management and corporate choices. People are using their investment dollars to help influence things. We have a long way to go but the example is there and we will see it grow quickly. So many business opportunities for ethical decisions and longer term outlook. There is much to be optimistic about.

    • Whts funny about it? Not sure I follow. Ethical investing is growing fast. A lot of funds won’t invest in fossil fuel industry for example.