Cake
  • Log In
  • Sign Up
    • I have an iPhone X that I love, but now that iPhone 11 is available to order I wonder if its time for the upgrade? The only thing that got my attention in the presentation were the camera upgrades. Looking at the specs though it isn't clear if those upgrades are worth it. Here is the side-by-side comparison of the back camera specs quoted from Apple's websites for iPhone X and iPhone 11:

      iPhone X vs iPhone 11

      - 12MP Wide and Telephoto vs 12MP Ultra Wide, Wide and Telephoto lenses.

      - Wide f/1.8 aperture vs Wide f/1.8 aperture.

      - Telephoto f/2.4 aperture vs No specs.

      - No Ultra Wide vs Ultra Wide f/2.4 aperture.

      - Six-element lens vs Five-element lens.

      - Dual optical image stabilization vs Optical image stabilization (Wide)

      The rest of the iPhone 11's camera features look like software upgrades. So I wonder if I'm reading the camera specs wrong or missed something? Please help me justify this expensive upgrade 😉.

    • I hate to think this about a company I've admired for so many years, but my marketing fluff radar is buzzing. It seems to me that they were very clear about the A13 chip and its specs because they are genuinely ahead in the chip race. But for the camera, it felt like a lot of obfuscation because they are behind and there doesn't seem to anything they can say that's clear that doesn't scream "we're catching up to where Google was last year. We've got wide, we've got Night Sight..."

    • I like to shoot with both iPhone X and Sony A7s at the same time. In most cases, I prefer Sony’s shots over iPhone’s, but there are some situations where iPhone trumps Sony.

      For example, with an iPhone X, I can capture panoramas that are much harder for Sony A7s to stitch. In fact Sony tends to fail 4 out of 5 times I try to take a pano.

      Other usecases such as capturing video in the moment and “live” photos are really nice to have in addition to stills. iPhone X also handles HDRs better than Sony. Like in this example:

    • Yep - depends on end use. For you it sounds like it might be worth it. I still use a 6S for happy snaps and pans occasionally - for personal use.

      For gigs - Phones won't do what my Nikons and Canons do. Best glass still wins.

      Economy of $cale notwithstanding.

      HDR! How unfortunate :-)

    • I actually did some shots at an event yesterday with a Galaxy S10, only because of the extreme wide angle lens. And the week before, I did some gimbel shots with the S10 and the DJI Osmo Mobile 3 because it looked smoother than what I was getting on the Sony A7III.

    • There are a few instances where computational photography on phones is beginning to make inroads with me, much to my surprise.

      The most surprising is portrait mode. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I sometimes like how people with all their tattoos and piercings can be in focus and the background is blurred. With a full frame camera, parts of the body are soft. This isn’t the best example, but you can get the idea. iPhone Portrait mode:

    • I am trying to decide what to do -- I need a new phone - my iPhone X was dropped and is dying. But I cant figure out what to do -- spend the money on the iPhone 11 Pro Max or wait and get an iPhone 8 plus for now? and wait for the 12?

      I use my phone as camera more than anything -- I keep meaning to get out the real camera but. . . .

      When someone gets the new phone, can they post a review? Or @Chris who do you trust/know who writes honest reviews?

    • So here's an example of the troubles I get into all the time with great glass and a full-frame camera: two or more people in the same shot. Things are happening fast, I'm trying to catch the fleeting moment, trying to get two or more faces the same distance from the camera, but I miss by a little.

      Maybe this is as much question as observation, but doesn't portrait mode solve this? Two or more faces can be in focus even if they are slightly different distances from the camera?

    • I'm with you and I know @Vilen is too. We both have iPhone Xs. I'm even wondering about the nuclear option: switching to Android.

      @JeffersonGrahamPhoto is getting an iPhone 11 in a week and being a photography-focused tech reporter, I trust him more than anyone. He uses everything and can compare.

    • I can't wait to try Deep Fusion mode!

      Here is an interesting PetaPixel article:

      Specifically these paragraphs:

      But the computational photography tech in the iPhone 11 Pro goes beyond this, with what Apple is calling “Deep Fusion.” Each time you press the shutter on the new 11 Pro or 11 Pro Max, the camera captures nine total images: four short images, one long exposure, and four secondary images. These images are then intelligently blended together “to optimize for detail and low noise.”

      All together, this should make for much more advanced photography capabilities that produce higher quality images than we’ve previously seen from an iPhone. Unfortunately, this feature will not be available on either phone at launch; it’s coming later in a free software update.

      It is unclear to me if this specific feature would only work on newer iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max. I wonder if it would trickle down to older iPhones (like iPhone 7 and iPhone X) that are capable enough to process multiple image captures.

    • or use the good camera and stop being smitten with F1.4.

      There are these things called DOF calculator apps dontchaknow. That’s a legitimate use for your fone.

    • I've got a Galaxy Tab A 'Phablet' running Andriod that I keep in my Camera bag.
      Its camera isn't much, but the USB-C connector is a LOT more card reader friendly than my iPad pro for checking and even LR editing photos in the field. I also don't care as much if it gets beat up.

      Same would apply to the phones connectivity-wise too I guess.

    • Verge just did a good side-by-side review and comparison of iPhone 11 Pro and Pixel 3. I was surprised to see Night Mode and Night Sight test results. It seems that Pixel 3 did an overall more dramatic rendering of the photo, but lost a ton of details when zoomed in closer. iPhone 11 Pro, on the other hand, looked flatter but had way more details in the shadows.

    • Hmmm, I thought as I listened to the words, this is the authoritative review we’ve been waiting for: the 11 pro is the best camera The Verge has seen. Cool.

      But taking a closer look at the photos they were producing, I honestly think most people would prefer the Galaxy. The faces are simply brighter and warmer, the way most people like them.

      It’s true the iPhone has more and sharper detail, and that is what mattered to the reviewer, but I dunno. What do you think?

    • As a photographer and iPhone X user, I use the iPhone with the DJI Osmo, a lot, to take behind the scenes video. I'm looking forward to the upgrade just for that reason. All the other stuff is a bonus for me. Not to mention how affordable it is with their trade in program.