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    • One thing I think people sometimes overlook is that while Cake's feeds like "For You" and "All" are designed to change rapidly to help you discover newer conversations, this only affects discovery within Cake.

      Conversations themselves are designed to be long-lived and to have great SEO, with the goal of helping people continue to discover them for days, weeks, and years afterward via search engines and externally shared links.

      It's a tricky balancing act because we obviously want to help conversations succeed by giving them the best chance to be discovered by Cake users, but we also need to make way for newer conversations so that there's something interesting in your feed that you haven't seen yet next time you visit Cake.

      We'll keep working on improving this, though!

    • SEO? You mean like this

      which led me to this

      and this

      The thing that appealed most to me was the idea that we could give women, people of color, and other people who are often targets of abuse or harassment a safe way to have meaningful conversations with each other online without having to resort to fully private means of communication in order to keep out the trolls.

      I think it’s just awesome that this was part of the vision for panels. I went ahead and shared it on the Federated timeline on Mastodon as there are a number of troll-abused populations that have migrated from Twitter to Mastodon and I think it would be of interest.

    • @JasonT Thanks for bringing this up - because I'm in exactly the same situation. The Cake platform, the idea as well as the people behind it, everything is great but it's hard to just jump in and start posting if there's no real community for that specific topic yet.

      "Post and they will come" is the general suggestion here - but "They aren't here yet, so I won't post" is something like a logical equivalent to that, and probably the more likely pick of the two for most people.

      This is especially true for topics where I want to participate in, but wouldn't consider myself to be a real expert. I'd love to talk about anything ranging from Hiking, over that free-to-play online card game I currently enjoy, to Android development. I'd love to participate in discussions about woodworking, gardening or the next expansion for the Civilization VI video game - but being an "Average Joe" instead of someone who knows every nook and cranny regarding some of those topics, I'm hesitant to start a discussion when I don't know what discussion might come up (if any at all).

      You brought up Reddit as a place where discussion already happens - and in fact, I lurk on Reddit for some of these topics, but would love to get away from it because it is often a vile place with all the anonymous downvoting and general trolling going on. Bootstrapping this is hard, though, so I'd appreciate any suggestions that might still come up here. :)

    • I’ve been thinking about it and I think it’s actually a healthy thing that there are conversations about Cake on Cake.

      In a way, we are following people on Cake. The way we get to know the characters in this forum is across a variety of different conversations. I’ve learned things about Steve Jobs from @Chris in a conversation that didn’t start out having anything to do with him. I found out today that @lidja and I have both worked in the nonprofit sector. But like a party filled with both familiar and strangers, there are going to be lulls in the conversation. So what do you when that happens at a party? Stare at your shoes for ten minutes? No, you avoid the awkward silence by quickly turning to a safe topic, one you can chat amicably about until a more interesting one comes to mind. Or the safe topic turns out to be of significant interest to the group so you enjoy the significant time spent discussing it. Either way, talking about 🎂 on 🎂 is a good thing.

    You've been invited!