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    • I did use Spotify the way you mentioned though. Been a paid subscriber for more than three years, I create my own playlists, follow a bunch of custom playlists too, but when I listen to Discover Weekly or Release Radar, most of the songs just don't appeal to me.

      It's true that YTM has a larger pool of data to pull from, but that shouldn't really matter. If Google has the tools at its disposal to make YTM algorithms better, why not use them?

    • I use Google Play Music for all my streaming listening, and dread the day Google will give it the axe in favour of YTM (and that day is gonna come, possibly soon). Play Music has a way better app (and web interface, and podcasts) and the music selection was also much better (last time I checked). Hopefully, YTM will get up to par feature-wise before they shut down Play Music. An option to transfer the library would also be very nice.

    • That's interesting. I don't think I knew about Google Play Music or if I did it fell off my radar for some reason. I installed it and used it this afternoon. The interface is like butter but I feel like I'm starting over building up a music library.

    • Pandora recently added several different options for fine tuning the discovery process on individual stations: see pic below.

      It’s taking me awhile to figure out the difference between “Discovery” and “Deep Cuts”. For the 80’s hair band White Lion, Discovery seems to play more heavy metal and bands that are one hit wonders. Deep cuts plays more side B songs from Journey and the like.

      I wonder what Discovery would do with Frank Sinatra. Bossa nova?

    • Have you received your Spotify 2019 Most Frequent Playlist yet? Does Google offer a summary of your years listening too?

      I've only been on Spot for a couple months, so I'm not as much a noobie as my playlist might suggest. 😎

    • I've received mine too, it's quite a highlight of using Spotify actually. #SpotifyWrapped is trending on Twitter as everyone is sharing their own wrap-ups.

      Unfortunately, Google offers no such thing in YTM, which is another feature it lacks compared to Spotify, and its users aren't oblivious to this omission.

    • This thread seems to have revolvoed around YTM and Google Play, Spotify, and a little bit of Apple Music, but very little has been said - good or bad - about Amazon Music

      Anyone here use Amazon Music?

      I do have one real annoyance with Apple Music now, and I wonder if I'm the only one - I used to utilize the search tool ( the spyglass button ) on Apple iTunes a lot to find obscure artists or songs that were never going to be high on the hit lists - But now I cannot find that search button in the iTunes store any longer - Apple just wants to keep prodding me to use Apple Music instead I think, and I do not want to do that at this time

      Any suggestions of other search engines for lesser known music?

    • I have an Amazon Music subscription. I did it because I have Alexa in the kitchen and I like to just tell Alexa to play _____. The thing is, it’s only $3.99/month if you only listen on Echo devices, but the catalog is 50 million songs, same as Spotify. Alexa has really good voice-activated search, and I find myself searching by lyrics all the time. There are convenient commands like repeat.

      I have a pair of the new Echo Buds that I listened to while in the gym yesterday. I bought them because they’re less expensive than the AirPods I keep losing, they do sound isolation, and they have Alexa, which I prefer over Siri. So they offer another tie-in to Amazon Music.

      If you want to also listen on apps, it’s $7.99/month if you’re a Prime member. I haven’t found anything special the apps have that Spotify doesn’t. They have a higher priced plan for higher bitrate music if you’re an audiophile with good sound playback, but I’m not.

    • Any suggestions of other search engines for lesser known music?

      What type of music are you looking for? If it’s new music, you may want to consider skipping the quest for the perfect algorithm and going old school by reading album reviews.

    • I went to Amazon all excited about your Echo ears buds with Bose noise reduction and Alexa - I found them on Amazon for $129.00 - Are those the ones you are describing??

      I was all excited, until I read the reviews. Now I don't place a great deal of reliance on reviews on Amazon, take them with a grain of salt and all that, but when the majority of the reviewers are very negative about either the sound quality, or the reliability of Alexa and the software connections and control features, I do pay attention. There were some few positive reviews, but they were a minority, which I found disturbing.

      So I thought I would check with you again @Chris before ponying up the money. Comments??

      Perhaps one reason I react this way, is that I have previously purchased an Amazon Bluetooth receiver to connect my phone to my old legacy stero system, and found it worked for a brief while before marching on into the land of dead gear, unuseable, etc. While AudioEngine's Bluetooth receiver ( purchased on Amazon but its own brand to replace the defunct Amazon receiver ) ) has worked flawlessly and superbly - sounds better, works every time, and continues to work month after month... Generally I think highly of Amazon.....

    • I had an initially negative view of them but lately my experience has been pretty good. I’m going to write a review in a day or two when I test them out more. You might want to wait.

    • Yep, saw that. :-(

      Tried transferring my data over to YT Music last night - no dice, apparently not available to me yet. Had a go at YT Music app and it seems decent enough, much better than the last time I had a look. We'll see abut the music selection when migration becomes available, hopefully that got fixed in the meantime too. Already switched over to Google Podcasts from Play Music.