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    • BarryWeber

      A heart wrenching documentary. I don't remember Joe Newman and his fight for his machine in the 80's. I'm not sure why. But the documentary is very well done and left me wondering why it all ended the way it did.

    • Chris

      Thanks for the recommend. Wait, was is a recommend? 😁

      The fascinating question to me is why do we humans sometimes get super strong beliefs that we can't give up no matter what? Jenny McCarthy's name always pops in my head, and the fake Mark Twain quote that so many people think is real:

      It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. 

      I'll watch this documentary and report back. I love shows like this.

    • cvdavis

      It's easier to stick with your beliefs. It also prevents cognitive bias if you just look for support for your currently held ideas. Searching through alternative views, admitting we are wrong and not too bright, recognizing our own faulty thoughts - well it's all painful and time consuming. Jenny is lazy and would also have to give up her audience if for example she said vaccine's do not cause autism. As she also illustrates, some people fall into a crusader mentality and think they are doing a good thing. Once they get on that bandwagon they fear any questioning of their beliefs may derail their attempts to help. Well that's my theory anyway but as I've suggested I'm probably wrong on all accounts but don't want to spend the time and energy to destroy my own cognitive self worth.

    • Chris

      Well, I watched it and felt bad for the guy and his supporters. Unfortunately, there are so many inventors who are In situations like this, where they passionately believe in their science but few others do.

      The trouble is, it happens to people with crackpot science as well as people with breakthrough science. It’s often hard to tell the difference. For example, this fantastic BBC documentary is pretty sad too, about one of the true greats.

    • Pa

      Crris, your youtube link is not working for me - I get a Youtube screen but nothing happens and I cannot see a URL - not sure if I am the only one this happens to, or not

    • Chris

      Hmmm, I wonder if the BBC had that video removed for copyright reasons? Here's another copy of it:

      https://youtu.be/O8OUH0pPyoI

      It's fantastically well done, about James Clerk Maxwell. I think he has turned out to be the most influential scientist of the last two centuries, at least for the electronics industry. I dunno, hard to compare with someone like Pasteur. But unlike Pasteur and Einstein, the world didn't recognize Maxwell.

    • Pa

      Yes!! That one seems to work - thank you, not sure why the first didn't work. I'll give it a look, Edit - I learned something - I knew about his equations, I did not know about his work with color and perception - Cool! He died way too early, too!

      My only study of Maxwell other than a couple physics courses in college was a book "Faraday, Maxwell, and the ElectroMagnetic Field" by Nancy Forbes and Basil Mahon which I read a few years ago.

      Claude Shannon is another genius that really is less well recognized by the general public than he should be.

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