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    • I am a road cyclist 🚴‍♀️ and have been hit a few times over the years. I’ve developed a sense that men are more aggressive drivers than women, and young males in big, dark-colored trucks up high with loud exhaust and big tires are the most likely to take you out.

      Is that just me influenced by my own biases and anecdotes? Whatever the reason, this caught my eye:

      Reading that story, ☝️, it seemed driving an expensive car like a BMW (what my conscientious, cautious and thoughtful wife drives), might also mean you’re conscientious about what you drive and other aspects of life. Maybe if you drive a Ferrari you’re a jerk (I want one).

      What’s your experience? (Image Road & Track)

    • I dread riding a motorbike on the M50 (orbital motorway around dublin) during rush hour. Drivers are changing lanes without warning, shooting for non-existant gaps, texting, drinking coffee, and defininitely not watching for a bike filtering.

      cyclists are very vunerable, there are a series of ads on tv here urging drivers to give a cyclist plenty of room when overtaking but i still see drivers going by cyclists with inches to spare.

      Audi R5 drivers have a bad reputation here, lovely cars but the drivers are far too agressive, we don't do trucks in ireland but a similar mindset :)

    • I used to ride about 15 miles to work each morning and home each night on a bicycle..

      I always felt the morning drivers were more courteous than the drivers who where homeward bound, hungry and tired after a day at work. Maybe a bit angry too.

      Like you, I feel young male drivers with loud exhausts, driving rusted, lifted, dented trucks always seemed intent on killing me. Indeed, the only two times I had material thrown at me from a motor vehicle was a beer can, and later a styrofoam cup of soda - different episodes in different states, so not the same driver for sure.

      I sometimes felt that about 10:30 to 11:00 am on Sundays were dangerous too, as folks were getting out of church and hungry for something to eat, or just in a big hurry to escape church.

      I never felt quite as much risk when on a motorcycle - drivers know they probably cannot drive away from a nice motorcycle , but also that a poor pedalist on a bicycle can't hope to catch an escaping driver.

      I am not sure whether it is expensive cars, or Toxic Masculine cars, or what. My closest call came at 8 am in a local neighborhood when a local housewife in a new Suburban tried to run me down while staring at her cell phone smack in the middle of the roadway in her own neighborhood - she should have made that call 5 minutes earlier at her home

      I think British drivers are better around bicyclists - maybe because more of them also ride two wheeled vehicles and are more sympathetic to the bicyclists plight. But maybe not so much in large urban areas.

      I've had three close aquaintances die on motorcycles, one was relative of mine - that maybe has altered my feelings somewhat.

      I agree with @Shay, I think the cell phone has significantly increased the dangers for motorcyclists in traffic. I drove for over 50 minutes crossing Nashville Tennessee in the interstate circle, and the driver behind me NEVER took their cell phone down from their ear for the important call they were making in 5 O'clock traffic the whole time. But they did manage to ride my bumper quite closely just the same. I was really glad I was in a 3/4 ton pickup and not a motorcycle that day.

      I never really drove what I considered expensive cars, but as I got older I did try to drive with more and more concern for the safety of drivers and pedestrians around me - the last thing I wanted to be responsible for was injuring anyone on the roadway near me. Both for a moral and for a legal standpoint.

      I didn't consider a BMW 3 series a big expensve car, but some might.

      I drove a Nissan 300 ZX Twin Turbo for a few years, and I really didn't like the behaviour it inspired in drivers around me. I would have mothers with an infant in a car seat beside them in a minnie van challenge me for a drag race just driving quietly to work on a Monday morning. Wierd. The Twin Turbo was a bright Itallian red color - maybe that was it.

    • $1000 fine for holding a phone while driving here. With specifically designed cameras to detect.

      In answer to the title question, generalising that a type of vehicle determines the owner’s personality, that’s the special type of prejudice usually reserved for motorcyclists. 🤐

    • I'm going to make a presumption that a more expensive vehicle these days comes with the improvements to performance that spending would imply.

      It is possible that those who have more powerful and better performing cars are merely enjoying their purchases and it looks like they're being jerks?

      Sure, everyone can restrain themselves... But if you were driving a Porsche 911 GT3 RS would you just putter around in it?

      Personally, I find such a vehicle impractical and wouldn't ever drive it (on the street). :-)

    • I usually try and ignore jerks as much as possible, vehicular ones even more so if they are aggressive. But some really do deserve their title. Here is such an example, a perfectly healthy twenty something year old couple, giggling and laughing descended from the spotless shiny truck, which I bet never sees a single drop mud or any gravel road, only to triumphantly occupy the sole handicapped parking at the hotel. Clue also to the faux license plate, who's a poseur... I'm sure the owner worked real hard to purchase that truck, only to drive it in a University town. Or perhaps his daddy did.

      @Chris I thought about your Ferrari dream/want and think you're safe! Can't possibly imagine you as a jerk even if you drove that car or even a pimpmobile.

    • My girl was an Operating Theatre Sister when we met 40 years ago. Cardiac specialist. Held the heart while they stiched it up,

      After we had kids she went back to University and got a Management Degree and an MBA to go with her Nursing qualification. All while working full time and raising me and our two kids. (I still haven't grown up - but the kids have.)

      When she got her first CEO gig she bought herself (Nothing to do with me at all - I just enjoyed it) an ex-lease Benz S600. Back in 2003 it was a simply amazing vehicle. Six litre normally aspirated V12 with hand stitched leather, 18-speaker Bose sound, DVD player, Refrigerator for 2 bottles of Bubbly in the back seat hand rest - and once you got that V12 spooled up it had some serious hurry up.

      No jerk. Just the opposite - a long career as a health carer who has impacted many, many lives for the better. You can't generalise these things.

    • interestingly back in 2000 that particular vehicle held the record as the most expensive the NZ distributor had sold - at $330,000. That’s probably around $200k US.

      It had depreciated significantly in three years - but it was still worth six figures. Today it’s a give away.

    • It may or may not say something about the guy in the right side rear seat that owns the car but it definitely doesn't mean that the chauffeur is a jerk. 🤪

    • I'm not sure you can generalize. I tend to drive too fast. But I always move over for someone who wants to drive faster than me and if I am in stop and go traffic I will ALWAYS give way to someone who SIGNALS and indicates they want to get in. I never insist on my right-of-way if doing so would be dangerous or even create the impression that I'm a jerk. But when someone cuts me off or gets in the fast lane in front of me going 5 mph below the speed limit, I MIGHT be inclined to come up on them pretty quickly before slowing down and backing off, in the hopes that they would realize what they did. I never weave in and out of traffic and never cut other people off.

      But to the question of how people behave: about 3.5 years ago I joined a group of about 10 people driving a set of identical brand new red Audi R8 V10 Plus from Munich down through Austria to Lake Garda in Italy and back, mostly on back roads through Alps. Out of 10 drivers, there were a few really safe and considerate drivers, 1 absolute crazy moron who nearly got himself killed on more than one occasssion, and the rest of us, including a few women drivers, who were somewhere in between. I remember at one point getting up to about 295km/h on the German Autobahn (about 183mph) and thinking this was stupid as there were other cars getting off and on the Autobahn, so as I started slowing down, a Ferrari blew past us going well over 300km/h...

      This is what it looked like when we all met up at the gas station in Italy to re-fuel.

    • Just to put things in perspective, anyone who hasn't had to drive in NYC for a living has no idea what the term 'jerk' really means. It's a skill set and a medal of honor all rolled into one, where he with strongest nerves and least to lose, wins!