Chris, it is hurtful and insulting for me to read when you compare a valid argument about safety of a pharmaceutical product with the Earth being flat or round.
The thing is: you might not experience it this way, but both are very similar when looking at them from the outside. In both cases, you have:
> overwhelming scientific evidence for one thing ("the earth is round"; "vaccines are safe").
> people in closed groups arguing the opposite ("the earth is flat"; "vaccines kill people").
> the same people dismissing expert opinions exactly because they are experts ("NASA is part of the conspiracy"; "big pharma just wants to make money"). Actually, as this conversation shows, no amount of reasoning at all really gets through.
> the whole thing leading to splits in society and a general distrust towards science, in the democratic process and even between random people in general.
> most of it playing out on "social media", where no one knows what bad actor might actually be responsible for the whole thingamajig:
(part 3 of a series, you should really also watch parts 1 and 2: https://youtu.be/1PGm8LslEb4 https://youtu.be/V-1RhQ1uuQ4)
So, while I'm definitely not here to deliberately insult or "troll" you - if you absolutely must feel insulted and want to pretend to be some sort of victim here, I really don't care.
When people run out of arguments, they often attack a character or intelligence of an opponent and that is some low tactics. This starts to feel like cyber bullying.
This, however, is just an annoyingly tone-deaf thing to say in a conversation with currently 171 posts, many of which are valid counter-arguments to your claims. It shows that you are not actually interested in discussing things with an open mind.