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    • I'm probably one of the last few people who are still following this conversation, but I think it might be time for me to give up on it.

      All of this purely anecdotal stuff, all the references to outdated, taken-out-of-context or potentially even forged studies, all the "look up this information that I'm only hinting at but not providing a link" schtick - it is getting a bit old, to be honest.

      In other news, I got a measles and a hepatitis vaccination last week. I'm still alive. Hooray for science!

    • Yet you cannot claim vaccines are 100 percent safe and this is what we keep hearing day in and day out.

      By coincidence, I am at an MIT brain science conference this weekend. All the attendees seem to be researchers from MIT, Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Oxford who specialize in disorders like Alzheimer's, Parkinsons, autism, ALS and epilepsy. It's a great group and I'm loving all the tech and science going into it. They're making some pretty good progress in understanding some of the diseases and figuring out prevention and treatment.

      There are many influences on these diseases but the one that's completely absent from the discussion is vaccines. The focus is on genes and environment. These are Phd students, post-docs, professors, Nobel Prize winners — not pharma — many of them funded by philanthropists like the Gates. If they felt there was anything there with vaccines, they would be the first to say so.

    • Yet you cannot claim vaccines are 100 percent safe

      That's true. But we all have the numbers from decades of research and millions of vaccines to say they are safer for children than eating or riding bicycles.

      We also know from overwhelming data that not feeding or vaccinating children leads to grotesque consequences.

      And yet, all children who get autism are diagnosed not long after eating, so by the very same logic we use for vaccines, eating should be a prime suspect as a cause for autism.