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    • Robin Griggs Wood

      With the sunsetting of Google+, I'm scoping about for options.

      I love the beauty of this place (simple, clean interface; real formatting––that responds to keyboard shortcuts, yeah!; and autosave for posts, double-yeah!), but there's a couple of things that are bugging me:

      1) Following personal interests instead of following people. While I understand why the "topics" over "people" follow option (less focus on "follower count", popularity, etc.) I prefer to follow people so I can learn more about them through the topics they're interested in ... it is a much fuller adventure when you connect with individuals and all their myriad interests.

      2) The compression and metadata stripping of images. Yes, I know this platform isn't meant for photographers especially ... but still ... here I am posting one of my own works and it will be an "orphan work" if someone decides to take it from this page (which is also surprisingly easy to do ... hrrumpf!). Hmmm, I wonder if one can host an image elsewhere and link; will it still show up in the post here? Things to learn ... things to learn.

      How's everyone else liking this place?

    • Welcome to Cake, @robingriggswood. That's an amazing photo!

      The compression and metadata stripping of images. Yes, I know this platform isn't meant for photographers especially ... but still ... here I am post one of my own works and it will be an "orphan work" if someone decides to take it from this page (which is also surprisingly easy to do ... hrrumpf!).

      We strip metadata for privacy reasons (lots of people take photos with their phones and don't realize there may be location data embedded in them) and to improve performance when displaying images. And we do our best to make sure images still look great even after they're resized and compressed. I think your photo above looks fantastic, but you're probably more familiar with its pixels than I am. Do we need to increase our compression quality factor?

      Hmmm, I wonder if one can host an image elsewhere and link; will it still show up in the post here? Things to learn ... things to learn.

      Yep! You can embed an image hosted elsewhere by pasting the image URL in its own paragraph and then hitting Return to turn it into an image embed.

      Note that it needs to be a direct URL to the image file itself. If it's a web page URL, then this will result in a link embed with a small thumbnail rather than a large image embed.

    • What a photo, Robin! Welcome to Cake. 🙂

      I often link my photos from a photo hosting site:

      As for following people, thank you for your feedback. We thought people might ask for that and we definitely respect the idea. We wanted to give it time before deciding whether to pursue the option to see how it shakes out with people who have come from sites where following people is the paradigm (like Google+). We'll be fascinated to hear from you and other Google+ refugees as you get used to Cake's paradigm.

      The thing is it would add complexity to the interface and to engineering, so we'd want to make sure we had a good design and the resources to pull it off. It would be a big undertaking to do it well.

    • Ooh, thankees, @yaypie ... for the kind comment about my image and the help tidbits. As I was bobbing about the place after posting this, I noticed that Chris had popped an image within his comment that was linked from SmugMug ... yeah ... I can do that ... :o)). I'll still need to figure out if that is a method for retaining metadata (that "orphan works" thing; I'm not a fan). Oh, wait, let me try that with Chris's image ... yep, no copyright, but the camera data is in there (and I'm not sure if Chris ever put copyright in there). So that will be my next test with one of my own. Thanks for that tip!

      As for the compression factor ... well, I'm a photographer ... ;o7. Having the compression I've chosen myself is preferable ... hah! Admittedly, I'm coming from years at G+––where they had the option in Settings to upload at full-res. Though, I am aware that there is a storage issue on the hosting end. But, again, I'll run a test via linking and see how posting that way goes. There's a lot of nice things here (I keep grinning at the autosave ... ;oD).

      Ultimately, I'd still love the option to follow people (yes, I want to stalk you and Chris all over this place; I'll learn faster that way ... <snicker>).

    • I didn't add copyright info.

      I was the cofounder of SmugMug and the guy in charge of choosing compression levels for display images. It tortured me for 13 years because of the tradeoff between compression and performance. Pro photographers like to save their images at 100%. We were okay with the storage, but the size triples with those last few percentage points so whomever is on the receiving end would complain of performance if we let the display copies go out with too little compression.

      Occasionally we would get angry letters from privacy advocates for leaving info in the display copies, but we understood why photographers wanted it left in.

    • G’day Robin, been here only a short time, maybe even two or more weeks now. So far very friendly a few I’ve meet from G+ are here, not to many yet. But so far I’m liking it here, still working things out. But so far only good news about Cake 🍰. Have fun here. Hope to see more of your work here.

    • I'm still learning the ropes. Jumping between three apps is hectic, but I don't want to desert G+ yet, and my friends are split up.

    • Been here a bit. I'd prefer not to store photos here so, happy with embeds from other sources. My number one issue is that the mobile browser does not support embeds because it does not support rich text editing. Secondly my stuff on Google Photos Share is not jpeg url but webpage url

    • How's everyone else liking this place?

      Welcome to Cake, fellow refugee! I've been here for just a bit longer than you, and I myself have shared a bunch of suggestions with the team. I know it's going to be impossible for the team to meet everyone's demands, so all we can do is share our suggestions and trust that the team will do what they think is best for the platform.

    • My experience is you make friends easier on interest-based networks and you stay in touch with existing friends easier on social networks.

    • I didn't add copyright info.

      I guessed as much. I'll try a test of my own.

      I was the cofounder of SmugMug and the guy in charge of choosing compression levels for display images

      Yes, I knew that you were the cofounder of SM, but did not know that you were the one who chose compression levels there. They do turn out well on my SM site.

      I'm guessing that those photographers that leave location info in their metadata are aware of that ... but that's a tacit assumption as many folks not at the Pro level may simply be ignorant of metadata. I know it's dangerous ground these days and respect your decisions for here, even if I have my preferential considerations as a professional.

    • I’ll be stalking you as well, Robin! This place seems like an individual can start a Colkection of sorts on a particular topic. For example, signs or bottle gardens. But you’d have to create some kind of topic name to be found through a search of Cake? So much I will have to figure out. Are you getting the hang of Cake now after a few weeks?

    • Hi Cobalt,

      Yes, when you start a conversation you have the opportunity to assign topics to it and create your own if one doesn't exist, like bottle garden. I hope this helps.

    • @cobalt ... I haven't been able to spend enough time here to have a full handle on it yet. Though, I like the idea you suggest which creates a collection of sorts that everyone can contribute to.

    You've been invited!