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    • This article really had some surprises in it regarding costs of health care.

      "It’s one of the most common tests in medicine, and it is performed millions of times a year around the country. Should a metabolic blood panel test cost $11 or $952?"


      "If you’re a patient seeking a metabolic blood panel, good luck finding out what it will cost. Although hospitals are now required to publish a list of the prices they would like patients to pay for their services, the amounts that medical providers actually agree to accept from insurance companies tend to remain closely held secrets. Some insurance companies provide consumers with tools to help steer them away from the $450 test, but in many cases you won’t know the price your insurance company agreed to until you get the bill. If you have an insurance deductible, a $400 — or even a $200 — bill for a blood test can be an unpleasant surprise."

      In San Francisco the average negotiated price for a C-Section in 2016 was $24,200. But in Houston it was only $8,600. That is quite a difference.

      And it can make a huge difference in the insurance premiums if if the insured doesn't get a blood test or an operation. The average C-section in the San Francisco Bay Area is three times more than one near Louisville, KY.

    • As I understand it (and believe me, I know that leaves a LOT of wiggle room!), insurers and healthcare providers sort of do an intricate dance around and among healthcare costs regionally. I’m not sure one can separate out specific services for apple-to-apple comparisons because healthcare is not priced like anything else. Insurers and healthcare companies do a tap dance, adding a little here and there, transferring costs from this procedure over to that procedure, pricing some things below cost knowing that other things that are marked up will compensate. It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get unadulterated price figures for anything to do with healthcare. That’s our system. 🥴

    • "Health Care" should not be revolving around or have anything to do with negotiating money, instead it should focus strictly and humanly on health. Sadly it is and will remain the opposite, in a society where greed for profit trumps life. As the old proverb says "Fish spoils from the head first".

    • I wish I knew what the role of healthcare in our economy is. On the one hand, we have this horribly unfair system where the poorest 40 million essentially can’t get care and people who can afford it pay a lot, but it’s 20% if our economy.

      Does anyone understand the economics behind Medicare for all? Or is it just that insurance companies are now so profitable that lobbying yada makes change impossible and a backlash against Obamacare inevitable?

    • I am by no means an expert in the topic at hand, yet my common sense logic (which again could be less than perfect) tells me that free market principles do not tend to work well when applied to such topics; perhaps a combination approach (some regulations + some free market) would be more suited. Simply because money isn't the answer to everything in life. Or maybe the market isn't truly free? I am sure the brightest minds have been working at it and keep my fingers crossed they'll eventually get the system to work well here too, maybe if I am lucky, while I am still around, hahaha.