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    • At least one first impressions review is out:

      And it looks like a serious system but the reports of it not being for most people look to be true. I spec'd one out with a setup that seemed like the minimum to at least take advantage of its' abilities. And it's just over 12k, you can't get an iMac Pro with the same exact setup but with one that's close it's around 8k and you get that 5k display.

      This seems to be a very photographer heavy place and for that kinda workload I don't know how much either of these computers are needed (video is another story though). Looking just on the Apple side the iMac 5k has an 8 core processor which is faster for single core workloads that still exist in PS/LR and is still respectable for multicore work. Even the MacBook Pro is no slouch right now with its' 8 core setup and improved cooling/upgraded GPU.

      Then there's the non-Apple side, in the video he talks about how fast the SSD is but it's slower than Samsung's PCI-E 3.0 drives and way behind the 4.0 ones that work with AMD's new chips. I just configured a 16 core Ryzen system from Origin and it would have a faster CPU, more RAM, faster disks (though split between 2 2tb drives one being 4.0) and a faster GPU (less vRAM but with AI cores that help in certain Adobe photo applications). It costs about 4k, it's a very different class of machine but that's more my point. Since the Mac Pro was announced that level of performance has come down to the consumer level of chips. So while it's super high end spec has a real audience the designers/photographers who used to buy Mac Pros just don't need to anymore for the most part. And the kinds workloads that could benefit greatly is shrinking as processing power on the consumer end keeps going up at a fast rate.

    • You can save $200 and still make Mac Pro movable by only buying two wheels. Lift up the front and use the two back wheels to roll it around like luggage. You are welcome 😉.

    • Oh - I'd luuuuuve one - but I don't *need* one.

      >>the designers/photographers who used to buy Mac Pros just don't need to anymore for the most part. <<

      A long time ago, after my Centris 610 (1993) and Quadras and I moved on to Plastic Box Power Macs and then the first generation of Metal Box Pros (probably still?) in the 90's. And had a few of them as they updated. It's so long ago the timeline is a bit hazy.

      An iMac started to do everything I needed around 2008. It offered the same performance as the Pro I was replacing (after yet another Seagate Drive fail).

      When that very hard working '12 model fried its third hard drive earlier this year (Seagate!) I looked very long and very hard at the iMac pro, but in the end I went for a standard 5K iMac and upgraded everything to the top spec offered. 64gb RAM, I9 Processor, and Radeon Card - and it was still cheaper than the I-pro that would require upgrading memory on top.

      I'm really happy with the 5K box. I challenge its video capability pretty hard. I mix 1080 at 120p, 1080 at 60p and 1080 at 30p, audio, graphics and 24mpx still images into the same edit and it crunches it all with very little lag. Sending it all to Compressor is fast too.

      This is a relatively simple compile (And yes Chris, I have Premiere Pro - I just like FCP better :-))

      I gutted the fried 2012 box and put a new OS in its 128GB SSD boot drive and connected it up as a 4K mirror display. More screen real estate than I can use and the Radeon Card doesn't miss a beat.

      This is my setup. (Cable feed on the left).

      Processing stills and editing 36mpx NEF files is instantaneous.

      But yeah, the Pro now is enterprise level and I'm a very long way off that.

    • Chris,

      Something similar came up years ago regarding the cost of replacing the corner pads on the bottom of the MacBook Pro. However, after the process was understood and the reasons for the way in which the pads were built and installed was also clarified, the complaints dropped in volume (but some still don't like it).

      I am completely ignorant of the way in which these wheels are constructed and how they are installed but if past history is any indication, the reason for the cost is because the wheels (and the way in which the computer's housing is designed) are "industrial strength". I doubt very seriously that these wheels are consumer grade wheels.

    • I'd just look into how much image retention is still an issue for these screens. I've seen some reports of it on the newer models and its' a HUGE problem with my 5k iMac. But when it is working right the image quality is awesome.

    • I wonder how common this actually is, on my 2014 5k if you leave something bright on the screen for 5 minutes it'll be ghosted in for a long while. I had to set the screen saver to kick in basically right away after I stop using it.