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    • The car was exactly what I expected โ€” a slightly larger Model 3 with a hatchback and optional third row seating. I actually really like it! I love almost everything about the Model 3, but in general I prefer hatchbacks and a slightly higher seating position, so the Model Y looks just right. If I could afford it I'd order one, but the Model 3 will have to do for now. ๐Ÿ˜„

      But I agree the presentation was...odd. It started out great with a nice leisurely stroll through Tesla memory lane. Elon seemed happy, almost bubbly. Then they finally brought out the Model Y and Elon gave some quick specs, barely said anything nice about it, and said good night.

      Weird.

      I got the impression Elon really doesn't care about this car except in a business sense. It looks like it'll be a great car and will sell well, but there's nothing really new or exciting about it, so maybe he's just not as interested as he has been in Tesla's other models.

      Tesla is being really cagey about the hatchback, too. It was barely mentioned in the presentation, wasn't demonstrated, and there are no clear pictures of it on the website. They were similarly cagey about the Model 3's trunk when it was revealed, and later made some design tweaks to it. I wonder if they're still planning to do the same to the Model Y.

    • It sorta looks like a Mazda 3.

      I think that's a good thing! The Mazda 3 is a great looking car. I've owned two of them. ๐Ÿ˜„

      The similarity is no coincidence, by the way. Tesla's lead designer, Franz von Holzhausen, came from Mazda.

    • Itโ€™s exactly what I thought it would be and I love it. I canโ€™t think of any other car that offers the same level of value for that price.

      Take my money!

    • I think I read another article on Jalopnik about the new Toyo/Beemer collaboration for the new Supra. They mentioned how some states still REQUIRE a front license plate. Unless these OEM's plan on spending gillions on lobbying legislators to NOT require that, it becomes a design fail. Yes, as most people do, you could opt to drive "illegally". But, if you are spending $40K+ on a car I would expect more forethought from the designers.

      Kind of like when I disclosed I terminated my fan-boi-dom for Samsung on the Note 8 because Bixby was so obnoxiously ridiculous. People then say, well program the Bixby button to do something else. I just paid $1100 for a phone, it should not require bandaids.

    • Yeah, I was sad when I had to put a front plate on my Model 3. Tesla did their best to design an unobtrusive front plate mount, but it still totally breaks up the smooth curve of the car's nose and must wreak havoc on the painstakingly designed and tested aerodynamics. I wonder how much range I'm losing because of that plate. ๐Ÿ™

    • On Twitter today, Elon made a cryptic reference to a hidden "One More Thing" at the Model Y event that nobody noticed:

      I couldn't think of what he might be referring to. Anyone else have a guess?

    • I would not say it's boring, but definitely not eye catching or heart warming as the S/X/3 have been in the past, for their own reasons. It's probably still in heavy WIP-stage for some parts (see the hatchback), but regardless I think it will sell incredibly well, especially in North America. It's a "just right" iteration over the Model 3 to accommodate for the demand of compact SUVs. With that being said, I really don't like the third seats row. I cannot find a reason for how it's implemented and it reminds me a lot, in a negative sense, of the back seats of the C-HR which, from a space design perspective, are far from comfortable.

    • Hi federico and welcome to Cake! ๐ŸŽ‚Great first post.

      I've had a few chances to talk it over with people in my Silicon Valley Tesla-adoring neighborhood and they say the same thing about it not being eye catching but still a great car that should sell very well.

      I wonder if the pursuit of aerodynamic efficiency and safety is pushing cars to look ever more alike, smooth plastic bubbles in pursuit of 300 mile range. I can't really fault that.

      I was taking photos at a classic car show last year, drinking in how amazing they looked, wondering where the attitude like this went in modern car design:

      And I came across a modern Camaro. It's pretty but you can see the influence of the wind tunnel and not having things like hood ornaments to impale people. I get it, I approve, it just ups the boredom quotient.

    • Wind tunnel tests can have positive effects on a design too. I'd argue that the Camaro is just an example of bad design in general. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • The only time I look at my car is when I am finding it in a parking lot. I think the interior experience is a lot more important than the exterior - seat comfort, controls ergonomics, quietness, ease-of-cleaning, and ride smoothness. I have not seen any comments on such matters though.

    • I agree, except the one time I had a mustang for a week on business. Then I noticed the outside ALL THE TIME.

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