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    • How ridiculous to see "Top Stories" results, all with blank little squares.. hahahaaa.. Leave it to the bureaucrats to mess everything up, and throw away the babies with the bath water. If anything, the implementation should provision for options each company could choose by placing something like robots.txt for example.

    • Good to see this is running into trouble. Awareness of the potential threat is still quite limited in Spain, despite the fact that Google has been running little popup notices from time to time for months. While I think the intentions were good, the Eurocrats just didn't think this one through. That also applies to some of the content creators who have been pushing for it, I think. A few years ago, Spain passed a law that required content aggregators to pay royalties to Spanish news sources. Google said, nope, and shut down the Spanish Google News page. It also stopped linking to Spanish newspapers on other pages. The result was a significant drop in traffic and advertising revenue for the very papers that had requested the protection. Moral of the story: be careful what you wish for.

    • We actually did discuss this (and how it might affect sites like Cake) a few months ago:

      I'm glad to see the directive is encountering resistance. It would be a huge problem for small startups like Cake that simply don't have the resources to actively filter all user-generated content for possible copyright violations.

    • Unless the digital industry comes up with clear and enforced standards, like they did on DRM, it's pointless I think to try and vet content either manually or otherwise; I can't think how it would be done without something embedded in the content.

    • Yep. The tragedy is that in Europe much of the political posturing around this is aimed at limiting the power and reach of big tech companies, but every proposal they come up with in reality would actually strengthen their position. Yes, it would be a bunch of work for Google, Facebook and other, but it's work that they would simply budget (a few $ billions? ok.), while all the smaller companies and startups would end up being shut out because they don't have neither the resources nor the time to do it.

      Let's not even get into the fact that that automated filters don't work, end up hurting the marginalised communities, and empower abuse and censorship.

    • This was a milestone, but it's not quite a done deal yet. Now that it has been approved by the European Parliament, it goes to the Council of Europe in April. Assuming it is approved, then EU member states each have two years to implement the directive into their own laws. Since the language of the directives is not very specific, different countries will interpret the directive in their own ways, a further complication for service providers.

      The devil is in the details of the implementation. I don't personally believe that the sky is falling just yet, as the video @Dracula posted claims. One of the vested interests that wasn't mentioned in that video was the tech sector, which has its own agenda here and has been doing its best to scare the crap out of everybody by assuming the worst possible interpretations of articles 11 and 13. The reality could easily be far less radical.

      When the EU passed its General Data Protection Regulation, a huge fuss was made about how it would be an intolerable burden on service providers. Yet somehow, most companies have managed to adapt and life goes on. John Gilmore, one of the founders of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, famously said "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." I think the same might turn out to be true of this directive. I'm not happy with it, but I'm pretty sure that reports of the Internet's death are premature.