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    • Part 3: NeXT and Pixar went through some rough years and I thought neither company would make it. All eight of the original team at NeXT aside from Steve, including Randy’s heroine Susan Kare, had left. We had been driven out of hardware, so Steve’s dream of running a computer company was over forever, or so we thought. Pixar had also been driven out of hardware, had dabbled in selling 3D rendering software through CompUSA, had dabbled in processing medical and satellite images, and had spent 10 years living payroll-to-payroll hoping Steve would continue to fund it from his own money.

      Steve sent me to Pixar one day to talk to Ed Catmull, its long-time president. It was a day Steve had instructed Ed to lay off half the company and if I remember, headcount had gone from something like 72 to 36. But Steve wanted to hold onto John Lassiter’s creative team.

      I remember how agonizing Ed’s sorrow was. The good news is Steve had committed another $10 million to keep Pixar alive, despite telling his accountant to stop him from pouring more money into it. Ed asked me if I thought this might be the last Steve would ever invest. I didn’t know.

      Sometimes I wonder if I dreamed the next part. I have vivid dreams like this. My memory says Ed asked if Steve was pitching a movie to Disney. I said I thought he was. Jeff Katzenberg had been there. Ed said I should tell him they can’t make a full-length movie, it’s too much. He wanted me to tell Steve they could do an episode for Disney TV, but not a movie. I told Ed you know how it is with Steve, and he nodded.

      Steve got his contract from Disney and as we know from the books, it was a struggle for years to make Toy Story. Randy left NeXT for a stint at Kaleida labs as developer trainer, but when Apple bought NeXT, they hired Randy. It was rough there too, but I’m told Randy stayed a beacon of positive energy. There must be a lesson in that, because this happened after Randy had been at Apple two years:

    • Last part: After 12 years of running Pixar University, in a company whose rise is so incredible no one could have dreamt it, and a 2-year stop at DreamWorks as head of their university, he landed back at Apple.
      It’s astonishing what faculty Apple has hired to teach leadership and culture there — former professors at Harvard, Yale and Stanford business schools among them — who make as much as $1.7 million a year

      Here’s the thing: I would rather listen to Randy about hiring and culture than any of them. See for yourself in one of his few public appearances, below. Here’s the summary:

      1. You want to find people with mastery, true depth.
      2. The problem is, that isn’t enough. You need people who had failed and recovered. The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance.
      3. Breadth, meaning curiosity about things beyond what you’re deep in. 
      4. Collaboration. Not a synonym for cooperation, but the ability to magnify others. 

      Hearing it from the master is 1000x better:

    • Ha! The things you find on YouTube. They put a blue oxford-cloth shirt on Randy at NeXT and had him film a corporate video to explain object-oriented programming. But they didn't chop off his ponytail. 😁

      Looks like they had him demo on an Intel-powered machine after we did the dramatic deal with Andy Grove that probably saved NeXT:

    • Thanks for posting this; a friend shared it.

      I juggle recreationally and when I went to the Apple World Wide Developer's Conference (1990? 1991?) they had local jugglers and you could pass clubs or learn how to juggle. I visited the Santa Cruz Juggling Club (I used to travel and would visit the local Juggling Clubs in each city; there is a registered list that I think started through the IJA, the International Juggler's Association) and I knew some of the Palo Alto Jugglers who were at the WWDC.

      Trivia: If you've ever seen the movie "Jewel of the Nile" you've seen the Flying Karamazov Brothers. They play sufis and are the ones passing scimitars in one of the scenes.

      Here are some lists of juggling clubs in various cities; they may not be current.

      I used to run the Denver club (no longer around) which at one time we called "The Colorado Throwing Up Society" but had been renamed to the "Juggler's with Altitude." Our mottos were "Hurl 'till you hurl," "Juggle 'till you puke," and "Come throw up with us."

    • Hi DenverJuggler and welcome to Cake! I'm sorry I missed this when you first posted but it's fascinating to me because I'm also a longtime hobby juggler. At amateur talent shows, the small ones we tend to have at parties with friends, I can really impress people with salting and eating an apple while juggling.

      Anyway, many thanks for the info.

    • That's awesome Chris. You should go to Juggling Club sometime. I have so many great memories of juggling with friends and my kids going to a few local festivals. Not just juggling, they learned the Diabolo and my youngest learned top spinning. If you haven't learned to pass clubs, that's a blast too. Thanks for writing this article. BTW: Bruce Tiemann's brother is in tech (was CEO of Red Hat, and I saw him in Omaha in the 90's talking about C++) has a PhD in Physics but also juggles and either created or extended a juggling mathematical notation. I think it's called "Site Swap"

      Here's a picture when my oldest son started college at Nebraska. We went to juggling club and passed clubs in a "Box" pattern where each pair is throwing a staggered "every others" or "4 count" pattern to avoid collisions. I'm in the back on the left, my kids are to my right and left.