Cake
  • Log In
  • Sign Up
    • I have genetically high cholesterol and tried the Paleo diet for a year. I felt pretty good and lost some weight—probably from eliminating pastries—but at the end of the year my cholesterol was still 230. I tried statins but I'm one of the small percentage of people who doesn't tolerate them well.

      From a tip on Slowtwitch, the triathlon forum, I got deep in the books and research about plant-based diets where the fiber is left in tact. So brown rice, not white, apples, not apple juice, veggies, beans... It only took 2 weeks to get my cholesterol to 170. I lost more weight, recovered from workouts better, and felt better. Shocking, yes, but it turns out it was well known by food researchers, just not me.

      Three doctors I know, my wife, and perhaps a dozen of our friends watched the transformation and followed suit. One of the docs, my personal physician Dr. Souvignier, who once packed some pounds, now teaches a 6-workshop series at Sutter Health about it. He looks physically transformed. One of our friends had severe Type II diabetes and was on the keto diet for years in an attempt to control her blood sugar. She tried going all whole plants and was off her insulin within about 30 days. She even wrote .a paper about it in a diabetes academic journal. Turns out her story isn't very unique.

      Here's a great short video on foods that really do enhance athletic performance and recovery: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/foods-to-improve-athletic-performance-and-recovery/

    • You've brought up an interesting point about ultra events (extreme duration) like Ironman 140.6 or a Double Century (200 mile bike ride). In theory these are the perfect candidates to prove the benefits of Keto diet. I'd love to hear from somebody who's done one while on a keto diet. Even better would be to compare the same or similar races before and after starting the diet.

    • Zach Bitter is the poster boy of keto in the ultra community and he's been pretty speedy even in shorter races like the Comrades Marathon in Africa (56 miles). He placed 32nd there in a world-class field and averaged a little less than 6:30/mile. It's hilly too.

      And he's the American record holder for 100 miles on the track. He was able to average 7 minutes/mile for the whole thing. The thing is fat has a lot of calories and it doesn't upset your stomach so you don't have to eat much. The women's winner of the grueling Western States 100 last year ate cake frosting the whole way. Lots of fat with an immediate kick from the sugar.

      Not so good for heart disease and cancer tho.

    • i have been in amd out of nutritional ketosis never full keto to my knowledge.

      I have noticed that i am not hungry until lunch and it allows me to thrive on nothing but espreso, hemp mlk and cacao for breakast.

      I add phytonututrients and various addons like tmeric, cinnamon and cayenne. As well as touch of coconut palm sugar for taste.

      This allows me a break from solid food for 12-16 hours almost daily Ot gives my organs some rest and allows the fat burn genes to stay more relevant

      I am able to work out for 1-2 hours easily and still feel nourished afterward for a couloe hours.

      It seems to be of benefit to wait a An hour or two after exercise to enjoy enhanced HGH.

      Brad Kearns book Primal Endurane was very informative about keto benefits. When to focus on Keto. Off season etc. His low heart rate training model makes alot of sense as well

      I just try to limit needless empty carbs. Focus in earing whole foods and drink super waters. Fortified with minerals, electrolytes ans amino acids.

    • Wow, now I have a ton of questions for you @trevor7 so I'll start with a few:

      1. Since trying keto on and off, have you noticed any performance improvements in racing and training?

      2. What is the recipe for that morning coffee that keeps you full until lunch?

      3. What are the "super waters" that you've mentioned?

    • I won't go full Keto, mostly because I just don't have the motivation and/or time to strictly adhere to such a lifestyle change. I am on the intermittent fasting program though and am liking its benefits thus far. I do a FDF (Full Day Fast) one day per week, typically Monday which is my rest day from training.

      Beginning Sunday evening about 9-10pm, I'll have nothing but high ph water with added drops of trace minerals per quart bottle. I'll go through 1-1.5 gals of water in that 24 hour period, then break the fast with some bone broth, 1/2 an avocado, and maybe some nuts or a boiled egg.

      I still eat within healthy limits for the remainder of the week, but don't worry as much about ingesting carbs when desired or necessary. Lots of whole foods, brown rice, meats when desired, etc... I'm cognizant of how much alcohol I consume, and sweets as well. I've found a balance that works for me and I'll alter the density/quantity of my calories based on my training load and upcoming race(s).

      Each person will react to certain foods and nutritonal shifts differently so anything new, such as Keto or Intermittent Fasting, needs to be done with patience, a log of perceived effects, and finding your own personal balance along the way. If you have a doctor monitoring blood work along the way, all the better.

    • There has been a belief among elites for a very long time that it hurts their performance if they go too long between meals or get too hungry. Runner's World had an interesting article about Meb Keflezighi trained to win the Boston Marathon at his decrepit olde age where he said 5 small meals spaced throughout the day.

      Mark Allen, the 6-time IronMan World Champion and coach who helped Chris McCormack win three of them, said it's all about training heavy and racing light. In other words, drop the weight once a year for your A race in the weeks preceding the race when you're tapering, but for the other 11 months don't go hungry, it slows recovery.

    • My adherence to the intermittent fasting program is working well for me. Mondays are always a rest day, and I'm usually in front of the computer all day anyway as well, trying to catch up on weekend emails. I've lost about 4 pounds since starting the plan and, though hard to articulate; I feel more cognitively aware and clear of mind. A feeling of clarity to my mind usually comes on about mid-afternoon on my fast day and, though odd, it's welcomed.

      I raced #9 of my regional XC series yesterday and placed 2nd on a semi-flat rear tire. Still leading in points for the singlespeed category over the 10 race series. Last race is in two weeks.

    • Awesome, Ridge. I forgot to mention when I spoke of Meb Keflezighi, he had a training theory that you should be a little bit depleted on long workouts to simulate race day when you have to burn fat at the end of a long race. Get the body used to it. When he says long, he means 2 hours 10 minutes. For some cyclists and ultra runners, that can mean short.

    • I have a friend who was very interested in this diet and he has a background as an extremely competitive science. He got me very curious about it and my quick study of it suggested to me that there was no serious scientific evidence to support the notion that ketonic diet worked for a competitive endurance athlete. That's not to say that at some point there may be some evidence to show that it can indeed work for some people. At this point I think it would hinder an athlete's performance by not giving them the calories or fuel they need to perform the arduous training required to compete at a high level in these sports. Anyone interested in this diet needs to remind themselves or rather keep asking themselves "What evidence would it take to convince me that ketonic diet is NOT effective?". This way the person won't fall into the trap of convincing themselves it is true or will work. This could happen because they may start reading lots of articles, research or anecdotal stuff by people who are convinced that it works or should work when in fact the science isn't currently showing that is is effective. Time will tell.