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    • Eddieb

      It's a long time since I did UX as part of a role so I'm not up with the latest concepts and ideas but I had a couple of personal observations/thoughts after 2 weeks on Cake.
      These are purely based on my own opinion and have no qualified basis at all so feel free to ignore them.

      I like the new little 'How to' bubbles that have appeared in the last 24 hours, short, to the point and not intrusive.

      I'm really enjoying the connection focus on topics and not people, it opens up conversations with people from a far wider variety of backgrounds and viewpoints, political, social, geographical etc than FB generally tends to.

      On the 2 main feed pages, Home and For You, I find the individual article headline area a bit busy, I'd go for the main headline font a tiny bit bigger, the headline max characters no more than 2 lines, maybe a slightly larger gap between the title and the next line down and a stronger delineation between articles, which even a few pixels of white space might give.

      When posting, the Cancel and Next etc buttons way up in the corner but the rest of Cake is very centered. It's a point of difference to the norm but does interrupt the flow a bit.
      I think it was when replying to a article/topic the submit button is above your reply not below which felt a bit odd.

      Anyway, loving it and planning on sticking around and spreading the word, You can have your cake and eat it too.

    • Chris
      Chris MacAskill

      Kiko, I wish you could too! We need the big data expertise you have.

      And Eddie, thanks for the feedback! We've been mocking up some designs that may address some of what you're seeing, but honestly our short-term focus is on getting search, notifications, an iOS app, and panels (the semi-mysterious feature) running.

    • kikoteixeira

      Chris, if you would like, shoot me a message with a rough job description and I will ping my network to see if anyone is interested.

    • thomashawk

      I still think the conversations for me should be bumped based on most recent comment.

    • Vilen

      We've spent a lot of time thinking about the right way to sort the feed. Right now it is based on an algorithm that we'll be improving upon overtime. We also want to make sure that the feed isn't easily gamed and having "most recent activity" makes it a lot more obvious on how to bump a conversation to the top. However, it also makes it faster to catch up on conversations you care about.

      We definitely think there is room for both and we'll probably add this as an option. Would love to hear your thoughts.

    • Richard

      The For You tab doesn't seem to be including some threads that I have explicitly followed. This is counter-intuitive. I think it should.

    • Vilen

      Richard, this is an interesting insight. All of the conversations that you are explicitly following can be found under the "★" tab. The "For You" feed is just a list of suggested conversations we think you may be interested in.
      I'll keep thinking about your feedback though. Please keep it coming!

    • Richard

      Vilen, I understand how it works at the moment and I appreciate having suggestions based on the topics/tags I'm following. But I see no good reason to exclude threads that I have chosen to follow, even if I haven't posted in them or I'm not following any of their tags. Following a thread is a pretty solid reason to consider it "for me." I'm lazy, so I like one-click shopping.

    • Vilen

      Haha. I think we are all lazy and love the one-click solutions. Let me discuss this with the team and get back to you.

    • Richard

      A couple of new things:

      We now have the choice of algorithm--new, interesting, active--for selecting and (I suppose) ordering discussions. We can also choose between all and for me, but it looks like the algorithm we choose applies to both. It might be better if we could set these independently, one for all, another for me. Dunno. As a veteran of software development, I'm wary of "smart" software. It's usually better if the software is predictable to the users, rather than clever. It now appears that there are six potentially distinct sets of rules. It would be helpful if someone could explain just exactly what these do. These could be immensely useful once Cake scales up, but at the current low volume it's hard for me to figure out what they mean.

      On a lighter note, I'm glad to see that there are now tooltips on hover for the emojis. I'm not a regular user of social media, so it's not always clear to me what some of them mean. I was glad to see that one that has been given to a number of my posts means "thinking"--at first I thought it might mean "yawning." Older eyesight I suppose. Since no good deed goes unpunished, I'd request that this feature be extended to the palette of emojis itself.

    • yaypie

      Great feedback Richard. Thanks!

      We now have the choice of algorithm--new, interesting, active--for selecting and (I suppose) ordering discussions. [ ... ] It would be helpful if someone could explain just exactly what these do. These could be immensely useful once Cake scales up, but at the current low volume it's hard for me to figure out what they mean.

      The For You feed contains mostly conversations in topics you follow, but we'll also occasionally sprinkle in a few popular conversations from topics you aren't following yet, to help you discover new conversations you might be interested in.

      The All feed contains every conversation on Cake.

      The new dropdown you see at the top of these feeds allows you to change how the conversations are sorted (it doesn't change which conversations you'll see — just what order you'll see them in).

      Interesting is our default sort. It uses an algorithm to try to determine how interesting a conversation might be, based on a variety of factors like how many posts and reactions it has and how new it is. The goal is to provide a good balance between showing you both engaging conversations that are hopping with activity and fresh conversations that are newer but not as active yet.

      Active shows you conversations with the most recent posts first. So no matter how old a conversation is, if someone adds a new post to it, it will jump to the top of the feed when you're in Active mode. Old-school forum users sometimes like this mode since it's how a lot of forums work.

      And finally, New shows you the newest conversations first, no matter how much activity they have.

      On a lighter note, I'm glad to see that there are now tooltips on hover for the emojis. I'm not a regular user of social media, so it's not always clear to me what some of them mean. I was glad to see that one that has been given to a number of my posts means "thinking"--at first I thought it might mean "yawning." Older eyesight I suppose. Since no good deed goes unpunished, I'd request that this feature be extended to the palette of emojis itself.

      Glad you like the new reaction tooltips! This was our thinking too — the reaction descriptions help ensure everyone is on the same page about what a reaction means, and will hopefully reduce opportunities for miscommunication. 🙂

      We'd like to do the same thing for all emojis as you suggested, but there's a small technical reason why that's a little tricky: there are over 2,600 different emojis! That's a lot of descriptions to write, and also a lot of data to load, so we'll need to spend some time coming up with a clever way to do it without slowing Cake down.

      Keep the feedback coming!

    • Richard

      Thanks for the explanation of algorithms. Useful to know.

      We'd like to do the same thing for all emojis as you suggested, but
      there's a small technical reason why that's a little tricky: there are
      over 2,600 different emojis!

      I wasn't thinking about all the possible emojis, just the 60 reactions that appear when you click on the + icon--if you're geeky enough to be inserting unicode, you probably don't need tooltips. It's still work, of course, and I might be missing something, but it doesn't seem intractable. Dunno.

    • yaypie

      Hmm. You should be seeing the same tooltips when you hover over a reaction after clicking the "+" icon. If you're not, it may be a bug. Can you let me know what browser you're using?

    • Richard

      Nope, not seeing them. I'm using FF 60.0.2 (64 bit) on Win 7. I'm using a number of add-ons, but AFAIK, none should be interfering with tooltips.

    • yaypie

      Did some investigating and it turns out there's a bug in Firefox that prevents us from being able to detect when your mouse is over a reaction button, which is why the tooltips aren't being shown in some cases. Sorry about that! I'll see if there's a way to work around it.

    • Richard

      OK, thanks. I also just noticed that the behavior is inconsistent--the same emoji shown in the same thread displays the tooltip only sometimes. Weird.

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