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    • neduro

      After a few months of off and on interaction with Cake, I had a few thoughts (and I bet others do as well).

      1) The quality of content/ conversation is high. That probably owes to the hand-picked nature of who is here, but it's great to have respectful discussions with people of diverse viewpoints. The format works well for it. Maintaining it will be a trick, but so was beginning it.

      2) I don't visit super often. I've thought about why that is, and I think it is because it is too hard to pick up where I left off. I can't see if anyone responded to a post I wrote, I have to scroll around to find conversations that I was participating in, and so the experience is more rewarding to just show up, see what others are saying, and leave, rather than contributing at a more meaningful level. This isn't super motivating to me, where getting in a proper discussion might be.

      3) I like the limitations imposed by one picture per post. I like the overall clean and clear design. I like the equality that everyone has in participating. All of those basics are important and good to me.

      What do others think?

    • Username

      2) I use the bell icon up top, it shows replies vs smileys in interaction and the thread it came from. Fairly new so perhaps that helps?
      3) This one I disagree with...
      a. It would be great to embed images rather than having to store then post each one, I use smugmug in other forums, perhaps just not implemented here yet? Or link an image from a website rather than having to save it and then repost probably breaking some copyright law at the same time.
      b. While I see a single image as an interesting push to simplify posting and perhaps force a more conscious reply, I don't think it will work for all. if images could be managed and sized in edit they could be part of the story. If I am not interested as much in the subject but the pictures are amazing I would hate to be limited to a single one per post.

      Since this is not the published product I don't like voicing too much since it could very well be developed and loaded quickly. A road map of sorts of functionality would help but then again that shows all the cards and not something wishing to be more public.

      Also on the public posting email we all got. Many use the bar analogy, you are talking to a somewhat known limited audience and many times feel contained within the conversation, but making it all completely open will drastically reduce my voice. Discussions are not done over loud speakers which a very open forum is like. Honesty and respect are great and an open platform can make that a little more likely, however the stifling of more private experiences could be a concern and limit the discussions/posts.

    • yaypie

      Great feedback! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

      The quality of content/ conversation is high. That probably owes to the hand-picked nature of who is here, but it's great to have respectful discussions with people of diverse viewpoints. The format works well for it. Maintaining it will be a trick, but so was beginning it.

      Agreed. It will definitely be a challenge to maintain this level of respectful discourse as we add users, but it's our primary goal and we're putting a lot of thought and effort into it.

      I don't visit super often. I've thought about why that is, and I think it is because it is too hard to pick up where I left off. I can't see if anyone responded to a post I wrote

      As @AngryScot mentioned, we quietly launched the activity feed a couple of weeks ago. It's the bell icon at the top of the page. There'll be a little blue dot on the icon if there's new activity you haven't seen yet, such as someone replying or reacting to one of your posts.

      This was a feature that took a lot of work behind the scenes, which is why we only just finished it. We'll be fleshing it out more and also adding the option to enable email notifications soon. 🙂

    • yaypie

      While I see a single image as an interesting push to simplify posting and perhaps force a more conscious reply, I don't think it will work for all. if images could be managed and sized in edit they could be part of the story.

      As you've surmised, the single-image-per-post limitation is just a starting point. 😉

      We have big plans for images, including eventually allowing more than one per post, but we've started small in order to avoid biting off more work than we can chew in these early days. We're a very small team with a lot on our plate, so we have to be careful where we focus our efforts. So much to do!

      Since this is not the published product I don't like voicing too much since it could very well be developed and loaded quickly. A road map of sorts of functionality would help but then again that shows all the cards and not something wishing to be more public.

      We do have some grand plans, but one thing I've learned is that sometimes the best ideas emerge from user behavior you couldn't have predicted. If you plan (and build) too far ahead of your users, you can end up building something they don't want or that they don't use in the way you expected them to.

      So there are a lot of things that we're planning to build out gradually, as we see how people interact with Cake and learn from them. Conversations like this one are a big help!

    • I like that you’re not too far ahead with respect to feature set. I know I mentioned a few things via email that seem to have been resolved for which I am grateful.

      I do wonder how it will scale. How do you not miss things? Especially on a mobile or other small device.

    • JSchneiderman

      I agree that the bell icon is a good place to show the replies and help focus what you're looking for. Funny, the bell icon itself wasn't intuitive to me as something to click on to get those feeds.

    • andrew

      I am missing a text field for searching... seems standard everywhere else. Maybe I just haven't found it yet (yes, my first post here).

    • Chris

      Hi Andrew! Welcome. We're working on search, sorry not to have it yet but it's coming.

    • andrew

      Some more quick impressions, for what they are worth: These threads/discussions can get very long (tall) and I wish there was a quick way to return to the top navigation tems, instead of needing to scroll all the way back up. Probably, that's coming.

      So much white space! And SO MANY images... I'm not sure if this is a photo gallery with discussions, or a discussion site with photos. Obviously, both have a home here. I don't use Instagram, but I do use Ello and it's heavily image-driven, with ample text and comments. I think I would come to Cake for discussions, over images.

      I am LIKING the simple formats... text is text, I can use *emphasis* in old-school ways without needing a style formattiong bar. Oh, except it's there when I highlight text... nice. :thumb

      And I'll go tfigure out how new tags are generated. I want to find and participate in discussions on communities of color engaging in places and spaces by whites (like the Outdoors).

    • Vilen

      Great feedback @andrew!

      I wish there was a quick way to return to the top navigation tems, instead of needing to scroll all the way back up.

      The quickest way to jump to the top is to look for the button at the bottom right corner with the arrow pointing up. Clicking on it will scroll you to the top.

      So much white space! And SO MANY images... I'm not sure if this is a photo gallery with discussions, or a discussion site with photos. 

      The white space helps readability and minimizes noise. This allows you to focus on the content without being distracted by things around it. As for the use of photos... It really depends on the topic of the conversation. Some conversation really shine when they are supported with photos, others don't need them at all. We allow both, but for now you can only post 1 photo per post.

      And I'll go to figure out how new tags are generated. I want to find and participate in discussions on communities of color engaging in places and spaces by whites (like the Outdoors).

      You can create a new topic by starting a conversation and adding it right before publishing.

      Please keep your feedback coming 😉

    • Vilen

      It is saved on your device so if you close your browser you will not lose what you wrote. This applies to browsers on the phones and desktops. We don’t store this draft on Cake so it only exists on your device. @yaypie can add more detail to this, but this is my understanding.

    • yaypie

      To add to what @Vilen said: you'll see the saved draft next time you return to the same place and start using the post editor.

      For instance, if you were creating a new conversation but stopped before submitting it, then you'll see your saved draft next time you go to the "New Conversation" screen.

      If you were typing a new post in an existing conversation, then you'll see your saved draft next time you open the post editor in that conversation.

      And finally, if you were typing a reply to someone else's post, then you'll see your saved draft next time you start a reply to that same post.

      Hope this helps!

    • cvdavis

      Response to #2.
      When clicking on the bell icon:
      I'd like to see a way to eliminate seeing people's reactions to my post or on a thread. It would greatly reduce the amount of reading or scrolling I'd have to do and make it faster/easier to keep a conversation going because I could just read what people are posting. I still would like the ability to see people's reactions but just want a way to turn that off or on at will as it's less important to me than actual posts.

    You've been invited!