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    • Well, I've noticed that people don't understand cancer very well.

      The truth is, there are so many people living with cancer.

      There are certain kinds of cancer that they are at a loss for, like pancreatic cancer, or stomach cancers. But with breast cancer, for instance, they are pretty good on. I have advanced breast cancer, and I'm not worried about myself. I'm really not.

      I follow this kind of thing, and every week they have a new cure for a kind of lymphoma, or some blood cancer. It used to be that you would think of leukemia as "you're gonna die next week." And it's not like that.

      I'm not saying I recommend it. But I think a lot of people who have cancer feel it's an experience that they learned from, that has made them a stronger, braver person. And I think - indeed, it can kill people, there are lots of things that happen. I'm not saying it's always good, and you have to have good health insurance, people should have health insurance because you just don't know what will happen.

      If you're a healthy person, there's no need to know about this kind of thing. My breast cancer - the only place it's shown up lately is in a bone, as breast cancer. If you're healthy, you don't understand that, you think it's bone cancer. But in my case, when it spreads, it's only ever breast cancer.

      The thing about having cancer is you learn so much about the health care system, you learn about health, how hospitals work, about how doctors work - I've learnt a lot about a lot of different things. It's been interesting. It's been an adventure. And definitely I could have lived without it.

      I wrote something about how I hate hearing people say "I'm sorry" when they hear I have cancer. I think the right thing to say to someone who has cancer is "How are you doing?" Because they might be okay. They might be fine. The person might be enjoying themselves, or having a great life. You just don't know. But it's really amazing how far they've come with this, and they are getting better at it all the time.

      But I think it's incredible how many people - I'll be sitting there, and I'll say something or other, and the person will respond with "Oh, I had cancer too, and they did this, and now I'm good" and I'll be so surprised.

      It's amazing how many people have had a brush with cancer, and are doing well.

      Joe Biden said that he wanted there to be a "moonshot with curing cancer," and that's a bit of a naive perspective. I don't know if it's something that lends itself to being cured. Cancer is overproduction of cells. It's a lot like health. It's very similar. It's like cells getting very excited about things. It's like cells having a wild party.

      With my breast cancer being actuated by estrogen - if they can figure out what it is that makes the cancer happen, whether it's estrogen or something else, they can do something about it, coming at it sideways. With different cancers, it's different things. They can get to the cancer in a different way. But it's not just one thing. It's really amazing: with immunotherapy, they've given people shots of things like the AIDS virus or the Polio virus to cure cancer.

      You think of the highest forms of virtue as curing cancer.

      But you don't meet people who cure cancer unless you have cancer.