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    • My collection on G+ grew to about 15000 people. I'd love it if I could cleanly migrate that audience somewhere, but there's no ability to do that.

      I know that @RogerVerhoeven uses appearoo to share his “forwarding address” to his followers. I think that @CadeJohnson uses a different website for this purpose.

      Might I re-suggest creating the

      ChrisJenkinsPossee

      topic on Cake? 😉

    • I miss the very early days of Google+. I was able to get onto Google+ on the 1st day. The early days were amazing. I remember I somehow ended up in a Hangout with Michael Dell and his daughter. He brother walked by and said "Are you on the internet again pretending to be Michael Dell?"

    • Well, I doubt I influenced anyone ... but, to answer your question, I have not migrated anywhere. There is currently not anything happening on the WWW that has captured my attention. The parts that I loved best about G+ was that it felt like you were actually meeting people, really getting to know them. Hangouts broke down the wall a bit. But, as I get older, Ill be 54 tomorrow, I find that I am narrowing down who I choose to hangout with. I'm looking inside more and not outside for influence.
      Who knows, perhaps something else will come along. It'll probably pass me by and I wont notice, and that'll be ok. :)

    • I’m starting to feel very much this way, too.

      Why the big push to be an “online influencer?” What does that even mean? Your virtual self influences other fake selves who come and go on a whim? Where is the meaningfulness in that? smh

    • Well, there are some people who are actually influencing other people. Trey Ratcliff is a perfect example of someone like that. He has opinions and talks about things going on in the world that he feels like are important and influential to him, and in return some people are influenced by that. Nothing wrong with that.
      But I tend to agree with you that a lot of what passes for an actual person online often is just wishful artifacts of what is an actual person. We very rarely allow our darker demons and uglier inner thoughts to filter through online. We naturally show mostly the best of ourselves, which of course has very little to do with who you really are. The older I get the less intrested I am in associating with people who only feel comfortable revealing the best sides of themselves. The ugly sides, the darker sides, that humanity, is far more interesting and relevant and truthful to me. And that's what I'm intrested in. Its very hard to ever get that online. Heck, its hard to get that in person. But that's what I'm in search of and interested in investing time in.

    • It could be that some of us have, with great effort and deep reflection over many years, expelled our darker demons and purged much of what was ugly in our younger selves. It is of course an ongoing process throughout a lifetime, but don't eschew the company of those who pursue nobler discourse.

    • Why the big push to be an “online influencer?”

      This summer I attended two concerts of bands that were big in the 1970s and 80s. The first band played horribly, spent a ridiculous amount of time on costume changes(!), and made me want both my money and time lost back.

      The other performer was a craftsman. His voice sounded as clear as his recordings from thirty and forty years ago. He played piano and guitar. He took song requests from the audience and actually changed his set list accordingly. I downloaded his greatest hits album to my phone a few days later, the first album I ever bought off of ITunes.

      Some influencers create content that is at that high level of craftsmanship that you want to know where they’re going after Google+ so that you don’t miss out.

    • Sure. Of course.
      I guess its up to each of us to figure out what is noble and worth your most valuable asset, which is of course time.
      Most of whom society in general pushes as someone worthy of being an "influencer" are pushing out things I dont value. I guess what I'm saying is that I dont find social media to be a hot spot for noble ideals imo.

    • You are often correct about social media being inane, but I find it very useful to kick around new ideas in off-grid living, dealing with climate change, and puzzling out the disturbing conclusions of modern physics. These are each, in their way, profound. If you find venues, please share. I have had some interesting conversations here and actually thought there was going to be a good discussion once in a philosophy group on MeWe, but it quickly deteriorated.

      As for influencing; apparently the issue of whether time actually exists or is an experiential artifact just doesn't grab the general public's attention - I find that amazing. A segment of the population has now heard of carbon taxing, but it means something different to each person at this point. I think it will, and has to be, huge in coming years.

    • My God,man. You ... actually WANT to be taxed for your so-called carbon foot print? Is that right?
      Why? What will your carbon tax dollars do to stop man made pollution? Who gets to decide how to spend that money? Al Gore? The same people who thought it was a good idea to put us in this position in the first place? Politicians and Multi-national Businessmen? Dude, you just lost me. In my experience the amount of energy it takes to even attempt to get an opposing point across to people who are as bought in to the current system as pro carbon taxers are, is time, and yes I do believe in time( in fact this last 5 minutes of time I may never get back) that is wasted. No amount of carefully thought out reason can penetrate the bullet proof, teflon coated, shiny veneer they are encased inside of. But please, feel free to take the lead and start forwarding your hard earned money tothe billionaire capitolists that are pushing for a carbon tax. At least you'll sleep better and you'll have less money to worry about.

    • Lol - well taxes are not a joy, but they are necessary sometimes. Yes, I want everyone to be taxed for their carbon footprint. The taxing itself is necessary to shift demand into lower carbon ways of living. You bet if the price of fuel suddenly doubles there will be all kinds of ways folks try to adapt. It is time to do some adapting.

      Now what to do with the tax is a separate issue. It might be too much to hope that it is wisely used for egalitarian purposes. I think there are all sorts of proposals - people love to spend money. I am pretty sure that even if they take my advice and tax me, they still won't let me choose how to spend it.

    • Cade, you seem like a great guy. Seriously. I bet we'd be pals. But I will never, NEVER, be ok with a bunch of elites deciding to take more of my money and just trust it will be used for the betterment of anyone but themselves.

    • That is why I think it's so important we have a dialog. Taxes are not spent perfectly, but I very much enjoy having a fire department, police, roads, schools, and yes, environmental controls and I'm happy to pay my fair share to make them happen.

    • Your carbon taxes wont go to any of those things, and all of those things only add to the carbon pollution that the tax is supposed designed to stop, so its seld defeating at best.

    • Carbon taxes made sense twenty years ago as a way to slow down the pollution rate.

      The best model, imho, is where the biggest polluters have to pay penalties for anything over their limit; those who pollute below their limit earn credits and can sell them to the polluters.

      The problem even back then with that plan is enforcement. Robert Reich in Saving Capitalism talks about how politicians can vote in favor of popular regulations and then kill them by underfunding the enforcement agencies: think EPA, SEC, IRS.

      Even with that reality, I think a carbon tax could’ve helped by giving us a few more years of breathing room before climate collapse.

      If you believe the 12 year deadline, a carbon tax approach at this point would be too little too late.