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    • tomstar3000

      Nine Inch Nails only selling tickets in person at the box office. Do you think other big bands will follow suit, or is it really just about money and to hell with the fans.
      https://www.kqed.org/arts/13831858/nine-inch-nails-in-person-ticket-policy-is-beautiful

    • If ticket prices came down as a result, I’d be ok with it.

    • PJ

      I've wondered for a while if someone did box office sales only how it would end up... so this will be interesting for me to watch. I can tell you that it does take extra effort to actually go down to the box office and wait inline to buy tickets.

      The only problem is I see scalpers with the most interest and funds to send folks to the box office for them and then sell to the online crowd who prefer the convenience and don't mind paying a little more.

      I always thought of ticket masters convenience charges as more of a joke and a cash grab. Buying at the box office often reduces that charge so it should be interesting to see how they get their fair share of money from the ticket sales without the 12-25 dollar "convenience" charges they normally levy.

    • tomstar3000

      Have you ever experienced the frustration of trying to buy tickets only to find out the show is sold out?! Ticket scalpers have elaborate robot ticket buying systems that can get through any captcha you throw at it.
      Ticket Master doesn't care though. They get their money. It's a terrible system. Most bands don't care, because they get their money too.
      Yay for NIN!

    • PJ

      honestly I usually have pretty good luck but I also have a citi card and a few other perks that often offer presale. So I’m the guy at work that 10am on the dot I’m spamming refresh on my browser and my phone ready to pick up a pair...

      I agree you don’t always get the best seats but I’m also not willing to camp outside a venue a day before for the best seats... so that’s where I get a little torn.

      What I feel will happen is they will just pay people a few bucks to stand in line and order it for them. Time will tell!

    • tomstar3000

      Yeah, presale is great. So what if they pay people to stand in line. That levels the playing field. Otherwise the scalpers' bots buy all the tickets.

    • PJ

      I’d rather have a 30% chance of buying the best tickets online then go to the box office a day or two early and camp outside to get the best tickets but that might be just me haha...

    • tomstar3000

      Sure, I could see that, but it's more like a 15% chance. In NIN case, it's at least a month out.
      The real problem starts when you want to see a band out of town.

    • PJ

      yeah take that scalpers! Haha I’ll stick with online sales! Maybe if they had partnerships with local super markets and the such so there were more places to go... ticket master used to do that not sure they do anymore!

    • tomstar3000

      Imagine the clusterfuck if it were Pearl Jam or Foo Fighters? How do we stop the robots when the ticketing agency doesn't care? ugh...

    • PJ

      What they need to do is really hunker down on reselling sites and folks that resell. Maybe issue tickets that require an ID similar to airline tickets. Or if tickets you purchased are found on a reselling website you are immediately refunded and they are no longer your tickets. Or require a state issued ID number to purchase tickets then you can track chronic re-sellers. I'm sure there is a way around all of that but they could try something. Maybe have verified Ticket master account backed by a true verification process.

      The only issue is as it stands now their shows sell out in 5-10 minutes if its a good enough show and that could potentially slow down and "harm" the companies so I kind of see why they aren't in a hurry to correct it.

      I think the Las Vegas Golden Knights tried to reducing the reselling a bit by issuing what they called the knights vow. Basically they will sell their season ticket holders playoff tickets at a discount as long as they agreed not to resell their seats on stubhub. Now I believe this was only limiting one of the resell sites and there is always in person exchanges but it was a start.

      I don't pretend to know all the answers but there has to be a better solution then making all 70k people for big arena shows cram in line to buy the tickets at 10am on a random day for an upcoming show. (obviously i'm exaggerating chances are it would only be a few hundred to thousand depending on the show)

      I mean we are in america people tent camp for 2 days to get a black Friday deal on a TV or a toaster.... Maybe make a more robust voucher system... not sure..

    • tomstar3000

      You're right, this is a difficult problem. It's difficult to beat the robots. In the interest fairness, something needs to be done. I hope someone can get this right. I do appreciate NIN's effort. I liked your idea of ticket booth re-sellers all over the country so you can buy any ticket to any show. Instead of seven booths there are hundreds. Robots can't stand in line, not yet at least. :)

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