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    • We use our level of consciousness to create, and things that had no prior existence. Based on observation and measurement I don’t see other creators at our level of development.

      Most creatures have others of their own kind that exist in parallel- measuring what we DO with consciousness It seems Human stand alone with no other of our Kind.

      What are your thoughts on this?

    • Hmm...humans have a capacity for language that no other species share. Other species certainly are conscious and some have rudimentary communication skills, but as far as we know, none has anything resembling ours. Language is the key enabler of culture, which allows us to share skills and knowledge easily, to work collectively and learn from our mistakes. I think this is what sets us apart from the others.

    • Language is certainly useful, though some--like Jerry Fodor--have posited that there is a separate, internal language of thought (mentalese) that is distinct from our public, shared language. It's possible that our creative acts rely on this internal representation. I don't think we have any idea of whether other animals have their own internal representations or what they might be like. Does a gazelle fantasize about having wings so it can escape the lion? I rather doubt it, but I can't really be sure. I'm not entirely sure about this, but I suspect that counterfactuals--that is, things that don't exist and might even be impossible--might require language to be formulated. If that's true, then I think one can claim that language is necessary for creativity. OTOH, when I think about musical creativity, all this seems to break down unless you insist that music is a form of language, which seems like more a metaphor than a description. Dunno, but it's an interesting question.

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